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stevennlv
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Jul 31, 2017

Suggestion for small 4 season TT please

I know what I need, just not sure where to start looking (brands / models). This is what I need. I'm a little flexible in some areas, like a smaller bed if I really have to.

1) **Truly 4 season**, at least PNW 4 season. I won't be doing any Dakota's Rockies' wintering.
2) Fully enclosed
3) As small as possible while being fully closed (R-Pod or smaller without having to go outdoors to cook or shower.)
4) Single axle
5) Stove, preferably no oven
6) Fridge
7) AC
8) Furnace
9) toilet
10) microwave
11) shower, preferably no tub
12) Queen sized bed
13) table / seating for at least one

Basically something as small as possible while being enclosed, just big enough for one who does not have much "stuff" and in which I can get through a couple of 25 degree nights and 100 degree days without being completely miserable.

Something like an Arctic Fox / R-Pod hybrid on the size of an R-Pod or smaller.

Does anybody make any such an animal?
  • What TV (tow vehicle) do you plan to use ?
    Or, do you plan to have a trailer delivered to a CG for a seasonal site ?
    If you're using a seasonal CG site, find a CG with heated bathrooms/showers. That way, you won't have any frozen water lines. Drain your system and dry camp. You can get by with a lighter trailer if needed.

    4 season rv is a loose term. If you look at Arctic Fox and Outdoors RV, you will need enough TV to tow them.
    If you go lighter, like the single axle Jayco you mentioned, then you'll have a much lesser 3 season rv .
  • I've looked at the at the outdoors rv units. They are very nice if they live up to the advertising.

    I was actually hoping to find something like 10' or less. But then I have to go outside to cook or do without something I actually need.

    Long story short; some of you may or may not remember me from about 10 months ago. The wife and I were in a rollover b/c we were attacked on the highway. I broke my neck. With my injuries 97% chance I should have been dead. I can still turn my head but it hurts like crazy.

    The last of the settlements is coming through in the next few weeks. The wife wants me gone. I have limitations now and she doesn't want to deal with them.

    I am leaving her the current 18 foot trailer and striking out on my own with no copilot / navigator / backing up spotter and I'm quite frankly nervous about trying to handle an 18 foot rig with a stiff neck and no help.

    I plan to get as many gizmos as I can to help: dashboard BU cam for the SUV, wireless BU cam for TT rear. I was just hoping to find something tiny with everything I need.
  • Since you ask for a "True 4 season trailer", I suggest you check out Northwood products. The other brands may make it through a night but NW stuff can be used without worrying about vavles and lines freezing on an ongoing basis.
    Often folks don't realize what components will suffer from the cold in a trailer until they experience it.
  • Road Trip...(similar but supposedly more affordable than Casita)
    Escape trailers

    Also, is an 19' floor plan too big for you? This back country trailer is a tandem axle, but quite light, and fairly small for what you get. You'll need to get one with the power pack to have A/C and microwave, (most dealers have them fitted this way).

    Outdoors RV Black Rock 18DB

    1) **Truly 4 season**, at least PNW 4 season.
    2) Fully enclosed
    3) ---------(size 18' floor, 23' hitch to back bumper)
    4) -------- (tandem axle)
    5) Stove, preferably no oven
    6) Fridge
    7) AC
    8) Furnace
    9) toilet
    10) microwave
    11) shower, preferably no tub
    12) Queen sized bed
    13) table / seating for at least one
    14) Freezer

    Back Country video

    My cargo conversion is a tandem, but I don't tow anywhere near the weight capacity. I like the tandem for better ride over bumps, the "included" spare wheel(s) if I get a flat tire, I just think they tow better. Now backing and turning, the tires will slide a little in a tight spot, and I guess your turning radius shrinks a little vs. single axle, but I also think it backs a little easier and more predictable.
  • Thanks for the replys. I'll look in to the models suggested.

    I just started this search. I've found recommendations on line about wintering in these smaller units by doing things like using a skirt and putting a ceramic heater underneath on an ext cord run from the podium. Anyone have experience with a set up like that? Good idea? Bad? I'm a little on the paranoid side about fire risks. Even with insurance I can't afford for everything to go up in smoke.

    After I posted I found the jayco hummingbird and winnie drop.

    Something I noticed in the brochures I've seen so far is that the ones in this size range (~14'?) do not have a "full" fridge, I.E. no freezer and only have a two burner stove.

    So, to add to my specs of *must* haves:

    A freeze

    And preferably a 3 burner stove, at least as an option. I never bake and don't broil much. I can get by with a small grill. But I cook a lot. Usually in big batches and then store the leftovers.
  • I'd be looking at a Lance 1475 or 1575 to at least compare with other models you are finding.
  • Almost any trailer will get you through a couple 25 degree nights. Add an air conditioner and it will get you through a hot summer too.

    If price is not a factor, I would opt for this Oliver travel trailer.
  • Camplite, casita, scamp, Starcraft comet or satellite.
    That will give you a few to gander at.