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valhalla360 wrote:
Toyota still has a negligible market share because they thought they knew better what would sell.
Only in recent years have they made any inroads as they moved towards what the Big3 sell...problem now is most buyers see toyota and think "toy" truck.
I agree. I think Toyota and Nissan both wildly underestimated the impact of brand loyalty in the domestic pick-up market. I don't see it being any different for Tesla. What I think will be different is that I don't think Tesla's target audience is current Chevy/GMC/Ford/Ram owners. They are looking to grab the younger market who likely have never owned a pickup, but like the idea and the idea of an EV. I've talked with a number of young people 25 and under and with the exception of 2 now, all have said they love the design and would buy one today if they could afford it.
Will I buy one? I won't say never. I hated the look of the Dodge trucks when they changed in 1994 (I think), but then owned one a few years later. I will just say that I'm not currently considering one.JRscooby wrote:
mich800 wrote:
What is a crossover pickup? A pickup with no pickup features?
Back over 45-60 years ago Ford and Chevy sold quite a few cars with a pickup bed in place of the back seat and trunk area. And often the volume of the bed was larger than the same year pickup. Floor of bed closer to ground, so less lifting to load. Often better than a pickup for relocating your home.
Before WWII the where some models called businessman's delivery coupe. A near pickup bed sized box would slide out of the trunk.
For a while, among working people, if the people area was bigger than the cargo area, it ain't a truck.
I had 2 El Caminos, both of them would haul....................a$$
So it's a Suburu Brat...Actually in other countries they still sell similar models but if this is the case, he's not marketing to his target audience.p220sigman wrote:
I agree on the crossover pickup. Don't get me wrong, I think it is UGLY, but I also don't think it is targeted at the market of truck buyers who are planning to put a truck camper or work rack on it or tow a 5th wheel. I've seen stats (I have no idea how accurate they are) that indicate 75% of truck owners tow less than one time a year. I'm pretty sure this is the market TESLA is going for. Well, the portion of this market that is under 25 anyway. Quick completely unscientific poll of my kids (16 and 19) and a few of their friends revealed all thought it was awesome and would buy one if they could afford it.
Toyota still has a negligible market share because they thought they knew better what would sell.
Only in recent years have they made any inroads as they moved towards what the Big3 sell...problem now is most buyers see toyota and think "toy" truck.FishOnOne wrote:
I could design the exterior of a truck in about 5 minutes and have something look better
Well why dont you?
GM and Ford could use your help,call them upDurb wrote:
They aren't orders, they are reservations. Some people are making up to 10 thinking they will be able to flip them. The Model S was a success in part because it is a stunning looking vehicle with classic proportions. The truck, not so much.
Your denial of Tesla success is obvious not that I give a s***
Some old timers just cant comprehend progress and what youngsters dig.
Big fail for legacy automakers
The awesome specs for Tesla truck obviously helps
Btw anyone thinking of FLIPin Tesla expecting to sell for more is nutz.
It may work for houses or Exotic cars but not for Tesla.
Reservations are same as Orders ffs you still have to PAY for them before taking posesion.
And every car DEpreciates soon as you buy it,well Tesla not so much actualy,go look up second hand one in good condition.mich800 wrote:
JRscooby wrote:
mich800 wrote:
What is a crossover pickup? A pickup with no pickup features?
Back over 45-60 years ago Ford and Chevy sold quite a few cars with a pickup bed in place of the back seat and trunk area. And often the volume of the bed was larger than the same year pickup. Floor of bed closer to ground, so less lifting to load. Often better than a pickup for relocating your home.
Before WWII the where some models called businessman's delivery coupe. A near pickup bed sized box would slide out of the trunk.
For a while, among working people, if the people area was bigger than the cargo area, it ain't a truck.
I had 2 El Caminos, both of them would haul....................a$$
I agree. I am just disappointed Elon touted this as a bad %$# truck to replace the F150/Ram. But offers nothing a truck buyer is looking for. At least the El Camino and Ranchero offered something the Pick-ups didn't or unique.
GM had something similar to El Camino in that Aus Holden UTE while back which was very popular there,
but their big ego or stupidity made them kill it
https://youtu.be/vmpCWEAapQY- They aren't orders, they are reservations. Some people are making up to 10 thinking they will be able to flip them. The Model S was a success in part because it is a stunning looking vehicle with classic proportions. The truck, not so much.
- Ive been very happy driving Chevys for over forty years now,
But my next truck will be Tesla
So many advantages it beats ice in every way
That rust and dent resistant stainless steel body is worth it alone.
Btw the reason for this wedge design is AERODYNAMICS aka less air resistance
Youd never get 500 mile range with regular square looking ev pickup.
Unconventional yes,so what main reason is it works.
And Tesla Supercharger network makes it most practical ev out there.
Over 200.000 orders now proves its a success.
Id think In couple weeks it will be milion :D 8.1 Van wrote:
Lets cut to the chase here, the Tesla Cybertruck is not for someone who buys a gas or diesel Ford, Chevy, Dodge or GMC pickup every few years , it's for people that want a large Tesla for up to 6 passengers , up to 500 mile range , 3500 lb payload and up to 14,000 lb tow rating.
Poor Ford, they invested in Rivian and think this is what will compete with Tesla.
LMAO!
The more I looked at that Rivian SUV, the more it kept reminding me of that Wendy's commercial from the 1980's.
The one where the frumpy old lady from the communist block country is walking the catwalk for a communist country's version of a "fashion show".
First she comes down the walk moving her flashlight side to side and the announcers says something like "Sportsware"..
Then she comes down again wearing the same outfit and shining the same flashlight...."EEEEveniiiinngggware"
LOL!- Lets cut to the chase here, the Tesla Cybertruck is not for someone who buys a gas or diesel Ford, Chevy, Dodge or GMC pickup every few years , it's for people that want a large Tesla for up to 6 passengers , up to 500 mile range , 3500 lb payload and up to 14,000 lb tow rating.
Poor Ford, they invested in Rivian and think this is what will compete with Tesla.
