Tesla Cybertruck

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
Aaaaaa Time, I never said my diesel. I said my hot rod street rod. If you think you have a tesla that will beat it, bring it. I'm game!

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
Let me try to explain to the fan bois why an old truck like I own puts out many, many times more torque that the Cyber junk.

The truck I own puts out 650 ft/lbs at the crankshaft. That torque is fed to an Allison tranny with a 1st gear of 3.10 to 1 gear ratio.

Now that 650 ft/lbs of torque that is feed into the tranny comes out as 2,015 ft/lbs of torque.

But we are not done yet. Now fan bois, we need to feed that 2,015 ft/lbs of torque into the 3.75 rear end.

So, 2,015 ft/lbs go into the rear end and the tires see slightly over 7,500 ft/lbs of torque.

It has been reported that the Cyber junk will have 1,000 ft/lbs of torque. If true, my 12 YO truck will put out 7x's the amount of torque the Cyber junk will put out.

If I have time I will do some more math to show that lying Elon is FOS.

BTW, what happened to the Tusk 300,000 tow rating? LOL

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With all that diesel torque and power why is your truck slower than Cybertruck?

time2roll wrote:
I believe the prototype out accelerated a Porsche 911. Your diesel must be pretty good to match that but with all that torque you stated the diesel would way out pull the Cybertruck. I think you are wrong. Shall check back in three years.

Aaaaaa Time, I never said my diesel. I said my hot rod street rod. If you think you have a tesla that will beat it, bring it. I'm game!

Every body laughing at the cyber junk. Even Denny's. LOL This is golden! :B

Zerohedge wrote:
It was only about 10 days ago that Elon Musk revealed Tesla's new Cybertruck to legions of adoring sycophants and - well, the rest of the world who laughed at him and ridiculed the truck's design. Even Denny's took shots at Musk.

And why wouldn't they? The unveiling of the truck was a full scale disaster, complete with two broken windows and a passenger side back wheel that looked like it was about to fall off from underneath the truck. So, naturally, Musk claims that the cult of Tesla has already pre-ordered 250,000 of them. We documented the full unveiling circus in a writeup here.

Now, we're starting to get a glance into why the truck and its unveiling looked like such a poorly planned concept: because they were.

Musk said in early November, just several weeks before the unveiling, that the company does "zero market research whatsoever" when designing a new product, according to a new article from the Wall Street Journal.

Zerohedge wrote:
In other words, Musk wants to enter the best segment of the auto industry: the highly profitable, billion dollar pickup truck segment, and he has done no research as to how best to meet the needs of potential customers.

Is it any wonder the company is losing close to $1 billion per year?

And how does Musk defend the strategy of doing no research? The idea seems "seems especially reckless in the age of Big Data," the WSJ says. Especially while companies like Google, Apple and Facebook have based their success by doing nothing but harvesting and analyzing data. In other words, they don't make blind bets, like Musk is doing.

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
BTW Time or YS, what happened to the 300,000 tow rating?

It is in the same place as the F150 pulling 1,000,000 pounds and the Tundra pulling the space shuttle. These are limited exposition demonstrations not for consumer use. But you're not that dim to actually get pulled into this marketing hype so why do you repeatedly ask the question????

wilber1 wrote:

Reisender wrote:

wilber1 wrote:

Reisender wrote:

wilber1 wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

time2roll wrote:

wilber1 wrote:
The simple fact is, a car getting 30 MPG can go farther on 70 lbs of gasoline than a Model S with a 1200lb battery. That is the hurdle that EV's face regardless of how superior electric motors are. Add a sustained heavy load situation like towing and the difference is even greater.

I understand range.

Turtle claimed better diesel torque and the Cybertruck was weak.
I want to know why the diesel with all that power and torque is so slow at accelerating (loaded or not) compared to Cybertruck.

And pissed off neighbors with the noise and stink.:B

Newer diesels are pretty quiet and they don't stink.

I'm actually a fan of EV's for many applications, I'm just not willfully blind to their limitations.

Nope. They all stink (gas or diesel) and they are all noisy. It’s just people get used to it. Drive electric for two weeks and then try and go back. That’s why so many households that switch to an EV end up changing out the rest of the vehicles within a couple years. Your garage starts to smell like any other part of your house. :).

Oh. And on edit. They are also all gutless...unless they are REALLY LOUD AND STINKY... and then they are still slower. :).

Sorry mate, EV's just can't hack it as tow vehicles except for short distances. That is just a reality imposed on them by current battery technology.

I don’t have any idea. They don’t build a tow vehicle yet. We’ll have to wait until someone does. But based on specs, the cybertruck is more than adequate for many towing needs...and better than my POS GMC 3/4 to ever was...at any level...ever.

Time will tell.

No it won't be. No matter how much it can pull, it won't be able to pull it very far because of battery limitations.

Well, the GMC couldn’t pull an 8000 pound trailer more than 200 miles. And it sucked at it. The thing should never have been legal to sell. Piece of junk. Sold it the day the warranty was up.

I believe the prototype out accelerated a Porsche 911. Your diesel must be pretty good to match that but with all that torque you stated the diesel would way out pull the Cybertruck. I think you are wrong. Shall check back in three years.

time2roll wrote:

wilber1 wrote:
The simple fact is, a car getting 30 MPG can go farther on 70 lbs of gasoline than a Model S with a 1200lb battery. That is the hurdle that EV's face regardless of how superior electric motors are. Add a sustained heavy load situation like towing and the difference is even greater.

I understand range.

Turtle claimed better diesel torque and the Cybertruck was weak.
I want to know why the diesel with all that power and torque is so slow at accelerating (loaded or not) compared to Cybertruck.

I never said the cyber junk could beat my pickup.

"If" it can it's the same reason my old hot rod street rod can beat the hottest Tesla car out; it's called "HORSEPOWER".

Since the cyber junk is only a stage prop at the moment we don't know who will win in a race now do we!

Lying Elon wrote:
It will be able to tow 300,000 pounds.

BTW Time or YS, what happened to the 300,000 tow rating?

Reisender wrote:

wilber1 wrote:

Reisender wrote:

wilber1 wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

time2roll wrote:

wilber1 wrote:
The simple fact is, a car getting 30 MPG can go farther on 70 lbs of gasoline than a Model S with a 1200lb battery. That is the hurdle that EV's face regardless of how superior electric motors are. Add a sustained heavy load situation like towing and the difference is even greater.

I understand range.

Turtle claimed better diesel torque and the Cybertruck was weak.
I want to know why the diesel with all that power and torque is so slow at accelerating (loaded or not) compared to Cybertruck.

And pissed off neighbors with the noise and stink.:B

Newer diesels are pretty quiet and they don't stink.

I'm actually a fan of EV's for many applications, I'm just not willfully blind to their limitations.

Nope. They all stink (gas or diesel) and they are all noisy. It’s just people get used to it. Drive electric for two weeks and then try and go back. That’s why so many households that switch to an EV end up changing out the rest of the vehicles within a couple years. Your garage starts to smell like any other part of your house. :).

Oh. And on edit. They are also all gutless...unless they are REALLY LOUD AND STINKY... and then they are still slower. :).

Sorry mate, EV's just can't hack it as tow vehicles except for short distances. That is just a reality imposed on them by current battery technology.

I don’t have any idea. They don’t build a tow vehicle yet. We’ll have to wait until someone does. But based on specs, the cybertruck is more than adequate for many towing needs...and better than my POS GMC 3/4 to ever was...at any level...ever.

Time will tell.

No it won't be. No matter how much it can pull, it won't be able to pull it very far because of battery limitations.

wilber1 wrote:
Sorry mate, EV's just can't hack it as tow vehicles except for short distances. That is just a reality imposed on them by current battery technology.

Can't? Depends on size I suppose. PITN yes probably but I will not say can't.
Of course first thing we need is an EV actually designed to tow. Even the Model X is very limited.

Going to be a couple years yet before an EV truck can be properly evaluated. And even then we will have to revisit the media that will manipulate the test to ensure failure such as Broder from NY Times and TFL Truck.

wilber1 wrote:

Reisender wrote:

wilber1 wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

time2roll wrote:

wilber1 wrote:
The simple fact is, a car getting 30 MPG can go farther on 70 lbs of gasoline than a Model S with a 1200lb battery. That is the hurdle that EV's face regardless of how superior electric motors are. Add a sustained heavy load situation like towing and the difference is even greater.

I understand range.

Turtle claimed better diesel torque and the Cybertruck was weak.
I want to know why the diesel with all that power and torque is so slow at accelerating (loaded or not) compared to Cybertruck.

And pissed off neighbors with the noise and stink.:B

Newer diesels are pretty quiet and they don't stink.

I'm actually a fan of EV's for many applications, I'm just not willfully blind to their limitations.

Nope. They all stink (gas or diesel) and they are all noisy. It’s just people get used to it. Drive electric for two weeks and then try and go back. That’s why so many households that switch to an EV end up changing out the rest of the vehicles within a couple years. Your garage starts to smell like any other part of your house. :).

Oh. And on edit. They are also all gutless...unless they are REALLY LOUD AND STINKY... and then they are still slower. :).

Sorry mate, EV's just can't hack it as tow vehicles except for short distances. That is just a reality imposed on them by current battery technology.

I don’t have any idea. They don’t build a tow vehicle yet. We’ll have to wait until someone does. But based on specs, the cybertruck is more than adequate for many towing needs...and better than my POS GMC 3/4 ton ever was...at any level...ever.

Time will tell.

Reisender wrote:

wilber1 wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

time2roll wrote:

wilber1 wrote:
The simple fact is, a car getting 30 MPG can go farther on 70 lbs of gasoline than a Model S with a 1200lb battery. That is the hurdle that EV's face regardless of how superior electric motors are. Add a sustained heavy load situation like towing and the difference is even greater.

I understand range.

Turtle claimed better diesel torque and the Cybertruck was weak.
I want to know why the diesel with all that power and torque is so slow at accelerating (loaded or not) compared to Cybertruck.

And pissed off neighbors with the noise and stink.:B

Newer diesels are pretty quiet and they don't stink.

I'm actually a fan of EV's for many applications, I'm just not willfully blind to their limitations.

Nope. They all stink (gas or diesel) and they are all noisy. It’s just people get used to it. Drive electric for two weeks and then try and go back. That’s why so many households that switch to an EV end up changing out the rest of the vehicles within a couple years. Your garage starts to smell like any other part of your house. :).

Oh. And on edit. They are also all gutless...unless they are REALLY LOUD AND STINKY... and then they are still slower. :).

Sorry mate, EV's just can't hack it as tow vehicles except for short distances. That is just a reality imposed on them by current battery technology.