Tesla Launch of Pick-Up

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:
So inputting real world scenarios and costs into the convo is naysayer because it is not the sunshine and rainbows that you want to hear? Ya'll are doing the very same thing that you guys claim you know who is doing when he says fake news. Well, well, ya'll have something in common with him. Who 'da thunk it.....

No, you just sounded like my accountant who has problem for every solution, lol.

So what I am saying about the Tesla Semi in regards to how applicable it is in the medium/heavy duty industry and the associated cost is fake news? I didn't know I was talking to an industry expert. How may years have you been in the medium/heavy duty trucking industry?

pianotuna wrote:
There are already electric pickup trucks intended for hauling. They are not cheap. But at least one of them can do a 35% grade with a full load at highway speeds. Just how far it goes I do not remember--but for "normal" driving it was over 300 miles fully loaded.

The tipping point for new technologies is often considered to be 5% market share. There are over 1 million BEV's on the road in North America--and new sales have reached about 2.9% market share.

I'd not be buying any oil stocks. (In fact I sold all my (meager) holdings in the last 24 months.)

I believe that a Hyundai Kona would make an excellent toad with the ability to power the "house" needs. Range is over 290 miles.

They Isuzu ,are partnering with a local Australian EV builder to build a EV MDT. Volkswagen , I think you have heard of the name , will build it's last internal Combustion Architecture in 2026. After that in Europe and China, it will be a new EV based one. Outside of Europe and China they will be still be building Internal Combustion engines that burn , Diesel , Gas( LPG) and Petrol till possibly 2050

Tesla car, 1000 pound battery. Pickup truck more like 2000 pounds, kinda limits its pay load. Heck it would be overloaded with the average costco load.
Semi to make it useful I have read about 22,000 pounds of battery, again limits load like the pickup.

Musks rocket the fuel needed for landing limits it payload.

Whos got that 100 mpg carburetor?

I know a person who bought a Tesla, had to bite my tongue. Anyhow he can't understand why they don't have a generator to recharge the battery while its moving then he would not have to recharge it. I had no answer, just stared at him.

Wonder when an electric will start paying road tax?

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
My son works at Tesla and this is just a confirmation of what he told me in secret a few months ago that their lab was reverse-engineering several full size pick ups.

I have always read that Tesla is so technologically advanced compared to other manufacturers. What possibly could they need to reverse engineer?

There are already electric pickup trucks intended for hauling. They are not cheap. But at least one of them can do a 35% grade with a full load at highway speeds. Just how far it goes I do not remember--but for "normal" driving it was over 300 miles fully loaded.

The tipping point for new technologies is often considered to be 5% market share. There are over 1 million BEV's on the road in North America--and new sales have reached about 2.9% market share.

I'd not be buying any oil stocks. (In fact I sold all my (meager) holdings in the last 24 months.)

I believe that a Hyundai Kona would make an excellent toad with the ability to power the "house" needs. Range is over 290 miles.

Well, as far as the desirability and mystique, George Carlin commented on that one time: "If you nail together two things that have never been nailed together before, some schmuck will buy it from you, man.".

jerem0621 wrote:

Campfire Time wrote:
Could be cool. Not so much for towing a camper though. Especially since there is no infrastructure at CGs to re-charge with. Most likely these are going to be far more expensive than a well decked out 1500/150 series.

Actually, camp grounds (well, RV parks, if we are getting technical) are the most well equipped places to recharge an EV outside of Cracker Barrell or a Nissan dealership.

Those 30 and 50 amp sites make it easy. Depending on the Range whilst towing with the Tesla it may be way more than doable. It may revolutionize things for a lot of folks.

I know I know there will be people who hold out because they just see themselves plugging in... it ain’t a real truck kinda crowd.


The. Again, there are people who still only drive gassers because Diesel may not be available....so...

IF Tesla can give us a truck with 200-300 miles of range before needing a charge while towing then this is possible....very possible.

Thanks and JMHO


Jeremiah

I'd say it's gotta be more than that. I can drive about 250-300 miles before we have to stop for gas while towing. And after a 4 minute fill up I can be back on the road. That is the weakness that electric vehicles still have, the fill up time is inconvenient for those of us that only have 1 week at a time to get to the destination, enjoy the vacation, then get back home (and to work).

I can only imagine the back up that would occur trying to get my electric truck and 32' of camper up to the super charger for an hour charge. I'd block the entire parking lot.

fj12ryder wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
It is so funny reading the posts of the naysayers.

I wonder whether you've read through the history of industrial revolution, the space age and the new technologies that you are using right now which were deemed "impossible" before someone came up with the invention and a few more invested to develop it.

I say, Elon Musk has the track record of delivering on his promises. One impossible thing that he made possible and viable was landing a reusable rocket ship back into a barge.

Previously, naysayers, and scientists at that, said that landing space shuttle is difficult enough -- which is like threading a needle from the 10th floor with the wind blowing.

I don't know that I've read the word "impossible" anywhere that pertains to building an electric pickup. I believe "improbable at the present time" is the most common phrase. And it is. It may work just jim dandy in the city, or dense population centers, but then everyone doesn't live there. Millions of us live in areas where the electric pickup isn't practical as a sole vehicle, like an ICE vehicle is. Maybe someday when the electrical delivery system can reach us all, but not right now.

Elon seems to be pretty good at delivering on his promises, but just like his cars, semis, and pickups, you just have to wait a long time for them.

Elon must be the luckiest SOB then. People, even now in Europe, are willing to flunk in hard-earned money for deposit and wait months for their unit.

But, even present cars, trucks and SUV's are not made for everyone. In business, that's called "your niche market" for every category or product.

Lamborgini can be sold cheaper but then it loses it's mystic if every other guy has one.

ShinerBock wrote:
So inputting real world scenarios and costs into the convo is naysayer because it is not the sunshine and rainbows that you want to hear? Ya'll are doing the very same thing that you guys claim you know who is doing when he says fake news. Well, well, ya'll have something in common with him. Who 'da thunk it.....

No, you just sounded like my accountant who has problem for every solution, lol.

Groover wrote:


The only interior offered at this point is the premium and it is very nice. The only options are a second motor, paint color and Autopilot. The colors can add $2k and autopilot is $5k. The base price is $46k.

Yes, it's not a cheap everyday car.

My daughter have a Tesla X. It is also outstanding as it is but she added the bells and whistles, it hit $130,000.

And again, it's not a car, it's a rocket ship SUV with just the instrumentation and the gull (they call it "falcon") wing.