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Grit_dog
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May 03, 2021

That Cummins, she’s just a ____ing machine!

First “real” tow with the new to us truck in my sig.
Have pulled my 32’ snomachine trailer all over this winter, but not near as large as the new toyhauler.
Interested to see how an under-geared (3.42s), over tired (37” Toyos) truck with a 6” lift would handle a bigger load.
Dropped the new camper on the hitch yesterday. Aired the bags up to 40psi to take the sag out of the @ss end and pointed it west.
From a handling standpoint, 35’ long high profile bumper pull toy hauler was zero issue. Even the typical nasty winds in Eastern WA didn’t really phase it. Got pushed around a little but nothing challenging about keeping it between the lines.
Power wise, I was expecting it to flounder a little maybe. Was running a 90hp tune.
But the truck ran 75-80mph, locked in 5th gear (6th is far too steep for highway speeds towing, with the tall gears and big tires). Engine and trans temp never budged from 200/170 +/- and truck never downshifted except coming up Vantage in the 5% grade stretch, she wouldn’t hold 1800rpms and 70mph in 5th.
Having never had a big tire, poorly geared, lifted diesel before, wasn’t sure how well it would do, comparatively.
But I can say all the blather about how bad lifted trucks are for towing, is really quite overstated.
The big C is a beast!

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    Grit_dog
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    May 19, 2021
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    PA12DRVR wrote:
    Nice looking setup. While my preference would run to a blue oval, it sounds like your setup really hits the sweet spot for you.

    ...and if it can pull uphill fighting the winds (I spent three years around Spokane...), it's obviously a stout beast.

    How's the truck work for routine drives w/o towing? Do the big tires & lift impact in-town maneuvering?


    Thanks!
    Yeah I was surprised how well it did coming up westbound at Vantage with a decent quartering head wind. Same grade, same conditions, similar power levels, similar frontal area and weight with the old Mega cab/TC/boat in tow, I'd have to drop to direct gear (4th gear on both rigs), but pulling the hill a little slower with the old Cummins. If this truck was not lifted and sitting on stock tires, it would have annihilated that hill I'm pretty sure...
    I wouldn't say sweet spot, but it gets the job done just fine and better than the "sometimes uninformed" onslaught of opinions about how bad lifted trucks tow.
    The tune helps. I was running at a 90 level. Didn't try it on stock power level. Although stock, even on the SO 6.7s is pretty decent at 370/800.
    Daily driving is basically the same, except I can just about look eye to eye with semi truck drivers, lol. Maneuvering in thight quarters is like having a short dually with dually wheels front and back.
    Backing into parking spaces is even more necessary than with a skinny truck and some drive thrus, its best to just pull up onto the appropriate curb to make your way through vs trying to thread the needle and curb rash the brodozer rims!
    Handling is fine, no perceived lack of cornering stability, but I suspect the big offset on wide tires cancels out the higher center of gravity. Steering is a little more vague than stock. Akin to the old 07 truck with 100k more miles on mostly original steering components. Part of it is big squishy tires that I'm also running a bit soft, trying to correct the wear pattern that the PO caused by running them over-inflated.
    I attribute the rest to the cheap lift kit and trailing arm relocation brackets vs longer trailing arms and same thing with the front track bar. Front springs aren't as initially complaint as a quality lift coil like a Thuren or Carli spring which makes the front ride a bid harsh as well over small bumps like potholes or sunken manhole lids and bridge approaches.
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    PA12DRVR
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    May 19, 2021
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    Nice looking setup. While my preference would run to a blue oval, it sounds like your setup really hits the sweet spot for you.

    ...and if it can pull uphill fighting the winds (I spent three years around Spokane...), it's obviously a stout beast.

    How's the truck work for routine drives w/o towing? Do the big tires & lift impact in-town maneuvering?
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    Grit_dog
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    May 19, 2021
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    I prefer Gem!
    Actually I’d prefer an Aisin equipped truck with at least 3.73s and no brodozer look, but I was not one to kiss a gift horse in the mouth when I traded the old truck and TC for this thing.
    For what it is and all the sht talking I do about the 68rfe, it actually does better in its current configuration than I had imagined it would.
    Hence my statement... she’s a ____ing machine!
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    Grit_dog
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    FishOnOne wrote:
    Grit dog wrote:
    Bringing this back to the top for Fish!


    Thanks for the opportunity... :B

    I see a camper with the name Torque so it can push the truck around! :B


    That’s what I was hoping for but it felt like the brakes were on, based on my fuel mileage!
    I think the connotation is “better have a sht load of TORQUE to pull this pig!”
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    FishOnOne
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    May 18, 2021
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    Grit dog wrote:
    Bringing this back to the top for Fish!


    Thanks for the opportunity... :B

    I see a camper with the name Torque so it can push the truck around! :B
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    Grit_dog
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    Huntindog wrote:
    2000# on the ball with no WD....... oh my.


    Must be I overestimated that. As it's pressure and height that calcs to how much weight it's supporting.
    Just read the specs and supposedly the trailer's dry tongue weight is 1355lbs.
    I had the wdh in the front compartment and idk, maybe a half tank of water, wherever that is, but it appears it's right over the axles as that's where the drain valve is?

    In hindsight, I'm guessing it was more like 1500-1600lbs?
    Either way, she towed like a dream and within the rating of the hitch and receiver.
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    Grit_dog
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    Did I mention, the WDH that came with it is up for sale on FB and CL currently?

    Don't need that shizzz...
    :C

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Have pulled my 32’ snomachine trailer all over this winter, but not near as large as the new toyhauler.
Interested to see how an under-geared (3.42s), over tired (37” Toyos) truck with a 6” lift would handle a bigger load.
Dropped the new camper on the hitch yesterday. Aired the bags up to 40psi to take the sag out of the @ss end and pointed it west.
From a handling standpoint, 35’ long high profile bumper pull toy hauler was zero issue. Even the typical nasty winds in Eastern WA didn’t really phase it. Got pushed around a little but nothing challenging about keeping it between the lines.
Power wise, I was expecting it to flounder a little maybe. Was running a 90hp tune.
But the truck ran 75-80mph, locked in 5th gear (6th is far too steep for highway speeds towing, with the tall gears and big tires). Engine and trans temp never budged from 200/170 +/- and truck never downshifted except coming up Vantage in the 5% grade stretch, she wouldn’t hold 1800rpms and 70mph in 5th.
Having never had a big tire, poorly geared, lifted diesel before, wasn’t sure how well it would do, comparatively.
But I can say all the blather about how bad lifted trucks are for towing, is really quite overstated.
The big C is a beast!

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Have pulled my 32’ snomachine trailer all over this winter, but not near as large as the new toyhauler.
Interested to see how an under-geared (3.42s), over tired (37” Toyos) truck with a 6” lift would handle a bigger load.
Dropped the new camper on the hitch yesterday. Aired the bags up to 40psi to take the sag out of the @ss end and pointed it west.
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Power wise, I was expecting it to flounder a little maybe. Was running a 90hp tune.
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But I can say all the blather about how bad lifted trucks are for towing, is really quite overstated.
The big C is a beast!

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PA12DRVR wrote:
Nice looking setup. While my preference would run to a blue oval, it sounds like your setup really hits the sweet spot for you.

...and if it can pull uphill fighting the winds (I spent three years around Spokane...), it's obviously a stout beast.

How's the truck work for routine drives w/o towing? Do the big tires & lift impact in-town maneuvering?


Thanks!
Yeah I was surprised how well it did coming up westbound at Vantage with a decent quartering head wind. Same grade, same conditions, similar power levels, similar frontal area and weight with the old Mega cab/TC/boat in tow, I'd have to drop to direct gear (4th gear on both rigs), but pulling the hill a little slower with the old Cummins. If this truck was not lifted and sitting on stock tires, it would have annihilated that hill I'm pretty sure...
I wouldn't say sweet spot, but it gets the job done just fine and better than the \"sometimes uninformed\" onslaught of opinions about how bad lifted trucks tow.
The tune helps. I was running at a 90 level. Didn't try it on stock power level. Although stock, even on the SO 6.7s is pretty decent at 370/800.
Daily driving is basically the same, except I can just about look eye to eye with semi truck drivers, lol. Maneuvering in thight quarters is like having a short dually with dually wheels front and back.
Backing into parking spaces is even more necessary than with a skinny truck and some drive thrus, its best to just pull up onto the appropriate curb to make your way through vs trying to thread the needle and curb rash the brodozer rims!
Handling is fine, no perceived lack of cornering stability, but I suspect the big offset on wide tires cancels out the higher center of gravity. Steering is a little more vague than stock. Akin to the old 07 truck with 100k more miles on mostly original steering components. Part of it is big squishy tires that I'm also running a bit soft, trying to correct the wear pattern that the PO caused by running them over-inflated.
I attribute the rest to the cheap lift kit and trailing arm relocation brackets vs longer trailing arms and same thing with the front track bar. Front springs aren't as initially complaint as a quality lift coil like a Thuren or Carli spring which makes the front ride a bid harsh as well over small bumps like potholes or sunken manhole lids and bridge approaches.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-05-19T09:50:49.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-05-19T09:50:49.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":491},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3508642/message:3508677","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"2484","rawBody":"
PA12DRVR wrote:
Nice looking setup. While my preference would run to a blue oval, it sounds like your setup really hits the sweet spot for you.

...and if it can pull uphill fighting the winds (I spent three years around Spokane...), it's obviously a stout beast.

How's the truck work for routine drives w/o towing? Do the big tires & lift impact in-town maneuvering?


Thanks!
Yeah I was surprised how well it did coming up westbound at Vantage with a decent quartering head wind. Same grade, same conditions, similar power levels, similar frontal area and weight with the old Mega cab/TC/boat in tow, I'd have to drop to direct gear (4th gear on both rigs), but pulling the hill a little slower with the old Cummins. If this truck was not lifted and sitting on stock tires, it would have annihilated that hill I'm pretty sure...
I wouldn't say sweet spot, but it gets the job done just fine and better than the \"sometimes uninformed\" onslaught of opinions about how bad lifted trucks tow.
The tune helps. I was running at a 90 level. Didn't try it on stock power level. Although stock, even on the SO 6.7s is pretty decent at 370/800.
Daily driving is basically the same, except I can just about look eye to eye with semi truck drivers, lol. Maneuvering in thight quarters is like having a short dually with dually wheels front and back.
Backing into parking spaces is even more necessary than with a skinny truck and some drive thrus, its best to just pull up onto the appropriate curb to make your way through vs trying to thread the needle and curb rash the brodozer rims!
Handling is fine, no perceived lack of cornering stability, but I suspect the big offset on wide tires cancels out the higher center of gravity. Steering is a little more vague than stock. Akin to the old 07 truck with 100k more miles on mostly original steering components. Part of it is big squishy tires that I'm also running a bit soft, trying to correct the wear pattern that the PO caused by running them over-inflated.
I attribute the rest to the cheap lift kit and trailing arm relocation brackets vs longer trailing arms and same thing with the front track bar. Front springs aren't as initially complaint as a quality lift coil like a Thuren or Carli spring which makes the front ride a bid harsh as well over small bumps like potholes or sunken manhole lids and bridge approaches.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3508677_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:137432":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:137432","uid":137432,"login":"PA12DRVR","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2003-09-17T09:45:56.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:137432"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3508676":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3508676","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3508676":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:137432"},"id":"message:3508676","revisionNum":1,"uid":3508676,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3508642"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3508642"},"subject":"Re: That Cummins, she’s just a ____ing machine!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3508676"},"body":"Nice looking setup. While my preference would run to a blue oval, it sounds like your setup really hits the sweet spot for you.

...and if it can pull uphill fighting the winds (I spent three years around Spokane...), it's obviously a stout beast.

How's the truck work for routine drives w/o towing? Do the big tires & lift impact in-town maneuvering?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-05-19T09:11:39.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-05-19T09:11:39.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":491},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3508642/message:3508676","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"381","rawBody":"Nice looking setup. While my preference would run to a blue oval, it sounds like your setup really hits the sweet spot for you.

...and if it can pull uphill fighting the winds (I spent three years around Spokane...), it's obviously a stout beast.

How's the truck work for routine drives w/o towing? Do the big tires & lift impact in-town maneuvering?","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3508676_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3508675":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3508675","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3508675":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:227630"},"id":"message:3508675","revisionNum":1,"uid":3508675,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3508642"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3508642"},"subject":"Re: That Cummins, she’s just a ____ing machine!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3508675"},"body":"I prefer Gem!
Actually I’d prefer an Aisin equipped truck with at least 3.73s and no brodozer look, but I was not one to kiss a gift horse in the mouth when I traded the old truck and TC for this thing.
For what it is and all the sht talking I do about the 68rfe, it actually does better in its current configuration than I had imagined it would.
Hence my statement... she’s a ____ing machine!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-05-19T08:40:13.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-05-19T08:40:13.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":491},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3508642/message:3508675","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"410","rawBody":"I prefer Gem!
Actually I’d prefer an Aisin equipped truck with at least 3.73s and no brodozer look, but I was not one to kiss a gift horse in the mouth when I traded the old truck and TC for this thing.
For what it is and all the sht talking I do about the 68rfe, it actually does better in its current configuration than I had imagined it would.
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FishOnOne wrote:
Grit dog wrote:
Bringing this back to the top for Fish!


Thanks for the opportunity... :B

I see a camper with the name Torque so it can push the truck around! :B


That’s what I was hoping for but it felt like the brakes were on, based on my fuel mileage!
I think the connotation is “better have a sht load of TORQUE to pull this pig!”","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-05-18T17:11:41.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-05-18T17:11:41.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":491},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3508642/message:3508673","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"447","rawBody":"
FishOnOne wrote:
Grit dog wrote:
Bringing this back to the top for Fish!


Thanks for the opportunity... :B

I see a camper with the name Torque so it can push the truck around! :B


That’s what I was hoping for but it felt like the brakes were on, based on my fuel mileage!
I think the connotation is “better have a sht load of TORQUE to pull this pig!”","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3508673_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3508672":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3508672","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3508672":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:240748"},"id":"message:3508672","revisionNum":1,"uid":3508672,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3508642"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3508642"},"subject":"Re: That Cummins, she’s just a ____ing machine!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3508672"},"body":"
Grit dog wrote:
Bringing this back to the top for Fish!


Thanks for the opportunity... :B

I see a camper with the name Torque so it can push the truck around! :B","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"169","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-05-18T16:20:29.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-05-18T16:20:29.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":492},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3508642/message:3508672","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"212","rawBody":"
Grit dog wrote:
Bringing this back to the top for Fish!


Thanks for the opportunity... :B

I see a camper with the name Torque so it can push the truck around! :B","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3508672_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3508671":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3508671","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3508671":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:227630"},"id":"message:3508671","revisionNum":1,"uid":3508671,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3508642"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3508642"},"subject":"Re: That Cummins, she’s just a ____ing machine!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3508671"},"body":"
Huntindog wrote:
2000# on the ball with no WD....... oh my.


Must be I overestimated that. As it's pressure and height that calcs to how much weight it's supporting.
Just read the specs and supposedly the trailer's dry tongue weight is 1355lbs.
I had the wdh in the front compartment and idk, maybe a half tank of water, wherever that is, but it appears it's right over the axles as that's where the drain valve is?

In hindsight, I'm guessing it was more like 1500-1600lbs?
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Huntindog wrote:
2000# on the ball with no WD....... oh my.


Must be I overestimated that. As it's pressure and height that calcs to how much weight it's supporting.
Just read the specs and supposedly the trailer's dry tongue weight is 1355lbs.
I had the wdh in the front compartment and idk, maybe a half tank of water, wherever that is, but it appears it's right over the axles as that's where the drain valve is?

In hindsight, I'm guessing it was more like 1500-1600lbs?
Either way, she towed like a dream and within the rating of the hitch and receiver.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3508671_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:225976":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:225976","uid":225976,"login":"Huntindog","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2002-04-08T05:04:49.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-1.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:225976"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3508670":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3508670","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3508670":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:225976"},"id":"message:3508670","revisionNum":1,"uid":3508670,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3508642"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3508642"},"subject":"Re: That Cummins, she’s just a ____ing machine!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3508670"},"body":"2000# on the ball with no WD....... oh my.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"42","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-05-18T12:55:43.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-05-18T12:55:43.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":491},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3508642/message:3508670","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"71","rawBody":"2000# on the ball with no WD....... oh my.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3508670_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3508669":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3508669","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3508669":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:227630"},"id":"message:3508669","revisionNum":1,"uid":3508669,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3508642"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3508642"},"subject":"Re: That Cummins, she’s just a ____ing machine!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3508669"},"body":"Oh, and 6 in a row, built to tow!
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