2019 mid-sized testThere is a lot to like about each one but also a lot to not like. None of them make me want to trade in my 2008 Ranger for running errands around town. A big chunk of that is the price of these trucks.

The Jeep Gladiator Overland is $55k? I paid less then that out the door for my 2014 Ram 2500 CTD. I would hate to see how much the Rubicon version costs. Probably another $5k on top of that.

And the only one that doesn't have a full frame either? Correct? it is still all unibody isn't it? So in my mind a SUV with a bed kinda like the old el caminos....but wait didn't they have a full frame?

ShinerBock wrote:The Jeep Gladiator Overland is $55k? I paid less then that out the door for my 2014 Ram 2500 CTD. I would hate to see how much the Rubicon version costs. Probably another $5k on top of that.The ones at my local dealer are over $61k.

librty02 wrote:And the only one that doesn't have a full frame either? Correct? it is still all unibody isn't it? So in my mind a SUV with a bed kinda like the old el caminos....but wait didn't they have a full frame?I had a '72 Newport unibody and a '70 Impala body on frame. The Newport was by far the sturdier vehicle and much preferred for trailer towing.

ShinerBock wrote:The Jeep Gladiator Overland is $55k? I paid less then that out the door for my 2014 Ram 2500 CTD. I would hate to see how much the Rubicon version costs. Probably another $5k on top of that.I don't know if the prices in that article are sticker or real world. I do think the midsize truck price point kills them for a lot of people, though, because unless you specifically need something smaller for parking or urban use or want that niche of the off-road capability you get with the Gladiator, most people are going to gravitate towards fullsize trucks given the similar price points. The fact is for most of us the extra size with a fullsize is a net positive feature.

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Desert_Captain
Explorer III
Sep 24, 2019
ShinerBock;

Not sure why you have such a knot in your knickers... hope you feel better soon.

My reported milage is supported by fuel pump/calculator numbers. By driving intelligently {operative word here being "gently"} it is no problem to get the higher end of the mileage spectrum.

Over the last 6+ years and 51,000+ miles I have gotten 9.5 mpg out of our 2012 V-10 5 speed Torque Shift 24' Nexus Phantom 23 P Class C which includes a small amount {84 hours} of generator time.

Disbelieve as you see fit but proper maintenance and an educated right foot can easily bring the mileage I am experiencing.

If you cannot get similar mileage I can only suggest you try harder.

:C
rhagfo
Explorer III
Sep 24, 2019
Nutinelse2do wrote:
Yeah, no. Thanks. We’ll keep our Ford Ranger. It has been averaging over 24mpg, and have experienced none of what the author of that article talks about with problems.

Plus, it’s a real truck, and is the most comfortable vehicle we have ever owned, including a 911 turbo Porsche, and a 500 series Mercedes convertible

Just wondering what the yellow sticker payload on your Ranger is?
ksss
Explorer
Sep 24, 2019
I like CAR and DRIVER for their articles about cars. Probably one of my favorite auto rags. Their name says it all. Doesnt surprise me a bit they like the Ridgeline....its a car. If your baseline is what is more car like, the Ridgeline certainly is that and that can be enough for some buyers.

I cant stand the looks them, frame or no frame. The dealer here has some with wheel flairs and bigger tires trying to move them and they look even more pathetic. I see more Nissan XDs than I do new Ridgelines here. I imagine in more urban areas they are more appealing, although lookings at the sales numbers, they arent selling that great nationwide. I think like the XD it is a niche vehicle. The difference is the Honda name can sell the niche.
FishOnOne
Nomad
Sep 24, 2019
ShinerBock wrote:
The Jeep Gladiator Overland is $55k? I paid less then that out the door for my 2014 Ram 2500 CTD. I would hate to see how much the Rubicon version costs. Probably another $5k on top of that.

I looked at 4 Gladiators a few weeks back with 2 in the Overland and 2 in the Rubicon packages and both where ~$55k. The Rubicons did not have painted fenders so they where lower end units.
ShinerBock
Explorer
Sep 24, 2019
Desert Captain wrote:

My reported fuel economy is spot on accurate. If you don't believe it {feel free BTW} maybe you should learn how to drive efficiently... it works.
LMAO!

:R

Sorry, but we put very little faith in computer mileage here for a reason. All my vehicles even my current Ram and BMW are off by 1-3 mpg. One fill up they are off by 3, the next they may be off by 1.5 mpg. It gets even worse when recording multiple trips on a trip computer.

And according to the Honda Ridgeline owners club forum link below, your truck is no different.

Trip computer accuracy
ShinerBock
Explorer
Sep 24, 2019
IdaD wrote:
ShinerBock wrote:
Wow, you are getting amazing mileage out of yours considering the average real world combined average on Fuelly.com for 2017-2019 Ridgelines is 20.4 mpg. It is almost unbelievable. ;)

It's almost like anecdotal reports of extremely good fuel economy aren't accurate or something. Weird.

Yeah, and we all know how well the computers readouts are in these trucks. I wish I got what it says instead of the actual hand calculated numbers that is usually 3 mpg less. The only time mine is accurate is on A to B trips with little to know starts and stops. However, the more starts and stops I do, the more inaccurate it gets.

Then there is instant readout while driving down the highway. According to mine, my 6.7L diesel is getting 25-28 mpg if I do 65 mph which we all know is BS.
Bionic_Man
Explorer
Sep 24, 2019
Interesting read. While they don't fit the needs of many on this board, they do exceed the needs of the vast majority of buyers. And they do it in a size that is much easier to handle, and allows you to own one and park in downtown parking garages. I get it.

Personally, I'd never consider the Honda. And after the terrible experience my buddy has had with his Colorado Duramax, the GM would be out. I do like the looks of the Ranger, but I'm a Jeep / MOPAR guy at heart, so that is likely where I would spend my $$ if I was in the market.

Interesting aside, they followed Ford's "suggestion" and tested using Premium Fuel.......
PNW_Steve
Explorer
Sep 24, 2019
Desert Captain wrote:
IdaD wrote:
ShinerBock wrote:

My reported fuel economy is spot on accurate. If you don't believe it {feel free BTW} maybe you should learn how to drive efficiently... it works.

:R

Driving habits can make a huge difference in fuel mileage. I have a regular run that I have made frequently over the last ten years. If I drive with Max fuel economy in mind I have gotten 20.7mpg over the 140 mile trip. If I drive the same route with getting there as quickly as I can I shave 5-10 minutes off of my travel time and my fuel mileage drops to 16mpg.

I have poked around at ecomodder.com and learned a few things to improve my driving style.
Desert_Captain
Explorer III
Sep 24, 2019
IdaD wrote:
ShinerBock wrote:
Wow, you are getting amazing mileage out of yours considering the average real world combined average on Fuelly.com for 2017-2019 Ridgelines is 20.4 mpg. It is almost unbelievable. ;)

It's almost like anecdotal reports of extremely good fuel economy aren't accurate or something. Weird.

My reported fuel economy is spot on accurate. If you don't believe it {feel free BTW} maybe you should learn how to drive efficiently... it works.

LMAO!

:R
PNW_Steve
Explorer
Sep 24, 2019
For comparison.

I towed my 13k# trailer, with my Dodge, over 5000 miles on a Mexico trip. I averaged 15.7 mpg for the trip.

I think that I will keep the Dodge. I pulled the same trailer with my Chevy 2500 6.0 gas on a 700 mile trip and averaged less than 9 mpg.

Anyone want to buy a Chevy 2500?

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