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jtallon wrote:
mich800 wrote:
I edited my above post for clarity. Maybe you can segregate the company from the product but many do not. Most consumers want stability in the business they make purchases from. Particularly when they are big ticket items.
I can certainly understand that. And if it were a close call in other respects, it might sway my decision.
Ultimately, I will own this vehicle long beyond Ram's (or Ford's, or Chevy's) responsibility for warranty work. Whether any manufacturer succeeds long term has limited bearing on the truck I own and drive today. So I chose the truck I'd prefer to be stuck with for 10 years, rather than where the manufacturer will be in 5.
The brand bashing on rv.net has turned into a team sport (and I've played along, to be fair) rather than legitimate discussion. It's tiresome. I should be able to rise above it, but sometimes the insults raise my hackles, and I give in.
I agree. I do it also but in this case it was not meant that way.mich800 wrote:
I edited my above post for clarity. Maybe you can segregate the company from the product but many do not. Most consumers want stability in the business they make purchases from. Particularly when they are big ticket items.
I can certainly understand that. And if it were a close call in other respects, it might sway my decision.
Ultimately, I will own this vehicle long beyond Ram's (or Ford's, or Chevy's) responsibility for warranty work. Whether any manufacturer succeeds long term has limited bearing on the truck I own and drive today. So I chose the truck I'd prefer to be stuck with for 10 years, rather than where the manufacturer will be in 5.
The brand bashing on rv.net has turned into a team sport (and I've played along, to be fair) rather than legitimate discussion. It's tiresome. I should be able to rise above it, but sometimes the insults raise my hackles, and I give in.jtallon wrote:
mich800 wrote:
I see you failed to actually read my response.
Oh, I read it just fine. It wasn't long. You didn't use big words.
Your quote: "Why would anyone in their right mind purchase a vehicle from such a weak minded company? They must be the wimp getting the sand kicked in their face on the beach."
I explained why I bought a Ram, and it has everything to do with the truck, and nothing with the company. I wondered, tongue-in-cheek, why company and brand would appear to matter more to some people than the actual product they're purchasing.
Let's be clear. You didn't question the sanity of someone cheering on the business case of Ram. You questioned the sanity of someone purchasing a vehicle from Ram.
I edited my above post for clarity. Maybe you can segregate the company from the product but many do not. Most consumers want stability in the business they make purchases from. Particularly when they are big ticket items.mich800 wrote:
I see you failed to actually read my response.
Oh, I read it just fine. It wasn't long. You didn't use big words.
Your quote: "Why would anyone in their right mind purchase a vehicle from such a weak minded company? They must be the wimp getting the sand kicked in their face on the beach."
I explained why I bought a Ram, and it has everything to do with the truck, and nothing with the company. I wondered, tongue-in-cheek, why company and brand would appear to matter more to some people than the actual product they're purchasing.
Let's be clear. You didn't question the sanity of someone cheering on the business case of Ram. You questioned the sanity of someone purchasing a vehicle from Ram.jtallon wrote:
mich800 wrote:
jtallon wrote:
mich800 wrote:
Why would anyone in their right mind purchase a vehicle from such a weak minded company?
A company won't tow my TT. But a truck will. If I'm looking to invest, I'll pick the better company. If I need to tow, I'll pick the better truck. So I bought a Ram this time around.
I don't understand the Ford fanboys' fascination with which company is better. Is it a status symbol, like a Members Only jacket, or a penguin logo on your polo shirt, or belonging to the right country club? Does the badge matter more than the truck underneath it? It must for some. Maybe the blue oval badge adds 50hp, like all the stickers on a noisy trashed Honda Civic?
Company strength may determine who has the better truck in the next generation. And when I need another truck, I'll look at them all again and compare. But I'll still buy the best truck at that time, not the best company. Future profits won't get me up a hill today.
Nope wrong on the fanboys. The comment was more tongue and cheek related to the attitude that all Chrysler's problems are from the multiple changes in ownership. Like they were some disinterested spectator on the sideline while it all happened. If you are not interested or do not understand the business side that is fine. It is not a requirement to purchase the vehicle you want. The truth does not make someone a fan either way. Are you a fanboy because you you did your analysis and decided to purchase the Ram? If someone is interested in the success or failure of a company that employees thousands does that make them a hater?
Not any more than picking a truck based on the merits of the vehicles, rather than the business case, makes one not "in their right mind" or a "wimp getting the sand kicked in their face on the beach."
I see you failed to actually read my response. Maybe history needs to repeat itself yet one more time before a lesson is learned. If they don't want to get kicked around it is time to stop acting the role. We cannot continue to hang our hat on the but the last merger/buyout sucked our resources and cash I "hope" it is better this time.mich800 wrote:
jtallon wrote:
mich800 wrote:
Why would anyone in their right mind purchase a vehicle from such a weak minded company?
A company won't tow my TT. But a truck will. If I'm looking to invest, I'll pick the better company. If I need to tow, I'll pick the better truck. So I bought a Ram this time around.
I don't understand the Ford fanboys' fascination with which company is better. Is it a status symbol, like a Members Only jacket, or a penguin logo on your polo shirt, or belonging to the right country club? Does the badge matter more than the truck underneath it? It must for some. Maybe the blue oval badge adds 50hp, like all the stickers on a noisy trashed Honda Civic?
Company strength may determine who has the better truck in the next generation. And when I need another truck, I'll look at them all again and compare. But I'll still buy the best truck at that time, not the best company. Future profits won't get me up a hill today.
Nope wrong on the fanboys. The comment was more tongue and cheek related to the attitude that all Chrysler's problems are from the multiple changes in ownership. Like they were some disinterested spectator on the sideline while it all happened. If you are not interested or do not understand the business side that is fine. It is not a requirement to purchase the vehicle you want. The truth does not make someone a fan either way. Are you a fanboy because you you did your analysis and decided to purchase the Ram? If someone is interested in the success or failure of a company that employees thousands does that make them a hater?
Not any more than picking a truck based on the merits of the vehicles, rather than the business case, makes one not "in their right mind" or a "wimp getting the sand kicked in their face on the beach."jtallon wrote:
mich800 wrote:
Why would anyone in their right mind purchase a vehicle from such a weak minded company?
A company won't tow my TT. But a truck will. If I'm looking to invest, I'll pick the better company. If I need to tow, I'll pick the better truck. So I bought a Ram this time around.
I don't understand the Ford fanboys' fascination with which company is better. Is it a status symbol, like a Members Only jacket, or a penguin logo on your polo shirt, or belonging to the right country club? Does the badge matter more than the truck underneath it? It must for some. Maybe the blue oval badge adds 50hp, like all the stickers on a noisy trashed Honda Civic?
Company strength may determine who has the better truck in the next generation. And when I need another truck, I'll look at them all again and compare. But I'll still buy the best truck at that time, not the best company. Future profits won't get me up a hill today.
Nope wrong on the fanboys. The comment was more tongue and cheek related to the attitude that all Chrysler's problems are from the multiple changes in ownership. Like they were some disinterested spectator on the sideline while it all happened. If you are not interested or do not understand the business side that is fine. It is not a requirement to purchase the vehicle you want. The truth does not make someone a fan either way. Are you a fanboy because you you did your analysis and decided to purchase the Ram? If someone is interested in the success or failure of a company that employees thousands does that make them a hater?mich800 wrote:
Why would anyone in their right mind purchase a vehicle from such a weak minded company?
A company won't tow my TT. But a truck will. If I'm looking to invest, I'll pick the better company. If I need to tow, I'll pick the better truck. So I bought a Ram this time around.
I don't understand the Ford fanboys' fascination with which company is better. Is it a status symbol, like a Members Only jacket, or a penguin logo on your polo shirt, or belonging to the right country club? Does the badge matter more than the truck underneath it? It must for some. Maybe the blue oval badge adds 50hp, like all the stickers on a noisy trashed Honda Civic?
Company strength may determine who has the better truck in the next generation. And when I need another truck, I'll look at them all again and compare. But I'll still buy the best truck at that time, not the best company. Future profits won't get me up a hill today.NJRVer wrote:
As usual, a company took over Chrysler just to suck all the money out of them. Plain and simple.
BTW, I own a Chevy currently.
Why would anyone in their right mind purchase a vehicle from such a weak minded company? They must be the wimp getting the sand kicked in their face on the beach. Hopefully someday their big brother will show up and save the day because according to everyone making excuses for them they clearly are not capable of making their own decisions.NJRVer wrote:
As usual, a company took over Chrysler just to suck all the money out of them. Plain and simple.
BTW, I own a Chevy currently.
Chrysler had no money, Daimler seen to that when they bought Chrysler.
If anything FCA has been fixing what Daimler broke!
