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atreis wrote:
I'll stick with Consumer Reports. They actually ask people about repairs, not just whether or not they're happy enough with the car to keep sinking money into it.
CR is VERY biased. Often they rate one brand high and another that is the same vehicle just re-badged very very low for reasons that have nothing to do with the differences. CR lost me as a fan with their very flawed biased testing of the Suzuki Samurai and Isuzu Trooper. Tests done only on those vehicles and not on others in the same category. Tests modified repeatedly until these two failed. No thanks.FishOnOne wrote:
Yeah me too.... They had so many soot clogged turbo's they even put a quick connect on the turbo to clean out the soot to help reduce the warranty costs. Head gaskets failure's and injectors that take out the complete engine. :W
The new emissions on the 2007.5's did have a ton of trouble. I had my turbo replaced twice, heater grids and EGR cleaned numerous times. But that was all during its first 1 1/2 years. After those fixes and various TSB's, reprogramming etc. mine has been trouble free for over 7 years now.
Have not heard many with gasket and injector failures. Know several with over 400K on theirs with no issues.- I can tell you that to keep an import on the street for 200k miles will cost quite a bit more than a domestic car!
- I'll stick with Consumer Reports. They actually ask people about repairs, not just whether or not they're happy enough with the car to keep sinking money into it.
camp-n-family wrote:
Seeing how the report is based on percentage of vehicles that have been report with over 200,000. The one with the largest number sold new should have the advantage.
The comparison is based on percentage because of the large variation in numbers sold between manufacturuers. The one with the most sold will have a higher number on the road but the percentage, as in what percent of the number sold made it beyond 200k, will still be the same.
For example if Ford sold 1 million F150s and 50,000 make it past 200k, that's only 5%. If Toyota only sold 100,000 Tacoma's and 5,000 remain on the road, it works out to the same 5%.
Correct, but where did they get their data?
From iSeeCars
WHAT IS ISEECARS.COM?
iSeeCars.com is a car search engine -- "the Kayak.com for people in the market to buy a car", according to ABC News -- that aggregates all listings of used cars for sale onto one site, making it easier and much less time-consuming for consumers to find the best deals and save money. It turns used car shopping on its head by applying Big Data analytics powered by over 25 billion (and growing) data points and using proprietary algorithms to objectively analyze, score and rank millions of cars and tens of thousands of dealers, providing helpful insights and guidance to users to find a good car at a good price from a trustworthy seller.
Based in the Boston area, iSeeCars.com was founded by technology veteran, Vineet Manohar, who formerly led Big Data projects at TripAdvisor, and experienced software executive, Phong Ly, who helped launch new products and markets at SAP.
So is their data from vehicles that are for sale.
We can let you decide why not a very high percentage of RAMs are on the used market.
ChrisFishOnOne wrote:
Me Again wrote:
LOL, the RAMs are out on the highway doing real work, and seldom come in the pits, so they were not available to be counted.
That or something is really fishy!
Funny my cousin makes a living working on cummins in those pits...
You and Ted sure have a problem telling the truth. Is that a Texas trait or what? The bigger the lie the better?Seeing how the report is based on percentage of vehicles that have been report with over 200,000. The one with the largest number sold new should have the advantage.
The comparison is based on percentage because of the large variation in numbers sold between manufacturuers. The one with the most sold will have a higher number on the road but the percentage, as in what percent of the number sold made it beyond 200k, will still be the same.
For example if Ford sold 1 million F150s and 50,000 make it past 200k, that's only 5%. If Toyota only sold 100,000 Tacoma's and 5,000 remain on the road, it works out to the same 5%.Me Again wrote:
LOL, the RAMs are out on the highway doing real work, and seldom come in the pits, so they were not available to be counted.
That or something is really fishy!
Funny my cousin makes a living working on cummins in those pits...blofgren wrote:
Turtle n Peeps wrote:
agesilaus wrote:
How would they include the repair record on every vehicle? There is no central repository of that info, it's not like wreck damage which is compiled by the insurance companies but only for repairs that they pay for.
Exactly. That's why this "report" isn't worth the electrons it's printed on. :)
These people might be like my friend that has a diesel with over 200K on it and needed several head gaskets, Fuel driver, coolers, injectors, many turbo cleanings. I won't say what engine this was. :W
Give me enough money and I can keep any vehicle going for as long as you want.
LOL I think I would have a pretty good stab at guessing what engine you are referring to. :B
Yeah me too.... They had so many soot clogged turbo's they even put a quick connect on the turbo to clean out the soot to help reduce the warranty costs. Head gaskets failure's and injectors that take out the complete engine. :W
