as well as they use to. It's because of how expensive they are now especially compared to travel trailers.2015 Jay Series 1209SC The options for this floorplan are listed below. Customer Value Package (Mandatory) $817.00 Bath/shower with hard walls $2,129.00 (2) Bed mat heaters $262.00 Stereo w/ outside speakers $187.00 Powered roof vent $210.00 16,000-BTU furnace w/ auto ignition $397.00$17,608 MSRP ----------------------------------------------------------2015 Jay Flight SLX 184BHThe options for this floorplan are listed below. Customer Value Package (Mandatory) $1,199.00 Roof-mounted 13,500-BTU A/C $412.00$14,647 MSRP--------------------------------------------------------------264BHW | 2015 JAY FLIGHT SLXThe options for this floorplan are listed below. Customer Value Package (Mandatory) $1,199.00Spare tire $180.00$18,463 MSRP----------------------------------------------------------

Yea, but you can still use a smaller tow vehicle, isn't that one advantage?Also, on a completely unrelated side note, what's up with these "mandatory" packages, if the equipment is mandatory why not just list it as standard equipment? :h

I like a camper for convenience. Traveling with all your food, supplies, water... stop anywhere, use your own bathroom, own sink, make lunch in your own kitchen, take a nap, etc. A convenient house on wheels. That makes it worth the money they are. To me, nothing about a Pop-Up is convenient. Nothing is useable or accessible on-the-go, and when arriving you have set-up time, and then you're under a canvas that may or may not leak, and you may have to pack it up while its wet, just to get it out again at home to dry, so you can pack it up again... Not knocking those who own and use Pop-Ups; I'm sure they can be fun under the right circumstances. But in agreeance with this topic, I could never ever see paying the same price for a Pop-Up as I could get a full-size useable camper.

Yeh, add another $800 to the pop up for a dealer installed roof mount air conditioner. That makes it $18,400! Then it's roughly the same price as the large, long and wide Jay Flight 264BH.With the heavy tongue weights of these pop ups, you have to go up to a substantial tow vehicle anyhow, that has a good payload, hitch rating and good rear axle rating. Most midsize crossovers don't fit that bill, so you're looking at a 1/2 ton pickup anyhow.

I loved PUP camping, I love TT camping better. You are correct that they are seriously overpriced.

This camper just a few years ago would be around $11,500 with a dealer installed air conditioner. $18,400 is insane!!If I ever went back to PUP camping, this is the model I would likely get. BUT at that price, no way. I'd either buy used or go back to tent camping if there were storage issues.

This is a reason why Pop Ups aren't selling......

edsland
Explorer
Nov 23, 2014
I loved our popup but I love our new to us tt with a real washroom!!!
Mike_Up
Explorer
Nov 23, 2014
This camper just a few years ago would be around $11,500 with a dealer installed air conditioner. $18,400 is insane!!

If I ever went back to PUP camping, this is the model I would likely get. BUT at that price, no way. I'd either buy used or go back to tent camping if there were storage issues.
fla-gypsy
Explorer
Nov 23, 2014
I loved PUP camping, I love TT camping better. You are correct that they are seriously overpriced.
Mike_Up
Explorer
Nov 23, 2014
Yeh, add another $800 to the pop up for a dealer installed roof mount air conditioner. That makes it $18,400! Then it's roughly the same price as the large, long and wide Jay Flight 264BH.

With the heavy tongue weights of these pop ups, you have to go up to a substantial tow vehicle anyhow, that has a good payload, hitch rating and good rear axle rating. Most midsize crossovers don't fit that bill, so you're looking at a 1/2 ton pickup anyhow.
JaredWPhillips
Explorer
Nov 23, 2014
I like a camper for convenience. Traveling with all your food, supplies, water... stop anywhere, use your own bathroom, own sink, make lunch in your own kitchen, take a nap, etc. A convenient house on wheels. That makes it worth the money they are. To me, nothing about a Pop-Up is convenient. Nothing is useable or accessible on-the-go, and when arriving you have set-up time, and then you're under a canvas that may or may not leak, and you may have to pack it up while its wet, just to get it out again at home to dry, so you can pack it up again... Not knocking those who own and use Pop-Ups; I'm sure they can be fun under the right circumstances. But in agreeance with this topic, I could never ever see paying the same price for a Pop-Up as I could get a full-size useable camper.
Tlauden
Explorer
Nov 23, 2014
Yea, but you can still use a smaller tow vehicle, isn't that one advantage?

Also, on a completely unrelated side note, what's up with these "mandatory" packages, if the equipment is mandatory why not just list it as standard equipment? :h

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