Tire blow out trailer
My buddy just sent me these on the way to Va. From Ct. Trailer is under one year old.
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Huntindog wrote:
I don't know, I would think the point would be obvious. Guess not.2oldman wrote:
And the point is?
Most vehicles/trucks don't weigh as much as a loaded RV.2oldman wrote:
JohnnyG73 wrote:
Most vehicles/trucks don't weigh as much as a loaded RV.
Like I said, why should I have to expect less from a trailer tire when it travels the same road as the TV.
And the point is? A properly load rated quality tire on a TT will follow the TVs tires everywhere it goes at the same speed, just as reliably as the TVs tires.
Sadly that is NOT the case for ST tires. We have people here making all sorts of excuses, for the poor abused ST tire. Make the jump to LTs and forget about excuses.
For the OP.
LT tires can be an option for most TTs. Some will be more difficult than others, depending on what you are starting with, but if you are serious about a solution, it probably can be done.
The first and best option is to get 16" rims for the commonly used pickup LT tires. You will need 6 lug rims for this. If you already have them (they are a option on 3500# axles) great. The rest is easy. If you have 5 lugs, then a drum swap is needed. This is a lot cheaper than I thought it would be. Then you need to make sure that you have 3" of clearance from the top of the tire to the wheel well. If needed the TT can be raised to get the needed room. Really the limiting factor will be the 1" minimum clearance between the tires.. Even that can be changed, but is pretty involved, and is the one mod I haven't done to make LTs work... But if the TT in question was otherwise perfect for me, I would do whatever it takes to make it work.JohnnyG73 wrote:
Most vehicles/trucks don't weigh as much as a loaded RV.
Like I said, why should I have to expect less from a trailer tire when it travels the same road as the TV.- I totally agree about treating ST tires like glass. Why should I have to expect less of my trailer tires (boat, RV, or whatever) than I do my truck tires. The trailer goes where the truck goes. I want to be able to tow off-road, hit pot holes, curbs, debris, and even go faster than 65 once in a while without having to worry about the trailer tires any more than I do my truck tires. I admit I don't have the more expensive tires on every trailer I own but when I do get new ones, I upgrade. Like I said, why should I have to expect less from a trailer tire when it travels the same road as the TV.
- The trailer is not 1 year old and the tire may have been overloaded. Westlake now has the nylon cap like the Mx brand.
kodiakcanuck wrote:
I never thought of it as "tire police"...ReneeG wrote:
An article in Trailer Life magazine on trailer tires, brands, differences between LT and ST, what each can handle etc. Very good article. Yes, they do imply that ST tires are especially good at it but as I stated, that's not to say LT's are bad, but ST's are made specifically to handle the flexing. Here's the article. What's missing from the hard copy is a chart comparing all the trailer tires out there - Goodyear, Maxxiss, Towmaxx, Carlisle, etc.JJBIRISH wrote:
I don’t know why, but on this subject everyone seems to have the need to embellish their story and overstate the problems and the solutions to bolster their point of view…
I read all the horror stories about the ST tire just like everyone else, but most people I meet and talk to in the CG’s are completely unaware of the controversy… then there are many that have reported not having a problem with the ST tire… my own experience is the same, I have never had a ST tire failure even using them on dozens of trailers over many years, and very many tens of thousands of miles…
While I have never owned a horse trailer, my son has had a few of them… I have had many RV’s, cargo trailers, utility trailers, equipment trailers and boat trailers all sporting ST tires and still not one highway tire failure on any of them… the only catastrophic tire failure I have had in the last 30 or so years was a LT tire on my TV…
I DID have the OE tires that came on this trailer have three sidewalls fail but never while I was on the road and they all failed in the first few months after purchase and were replaced by the dealer at the dealers…
Most of the vocal LT advocates argue they have had multiple ST failures and have since learned… I personally believe when one person has that many problems the problems are deeper than just the tire…
Although if were to believe everything you read here, 100% of those that had a failure all religiously took good care of their tires, never over-loaded, never run under-inflated never exceeded the rated speed and are at a complete lose on what could be wrong… BULL…
I am convinced that the failure rate for the ST tire is somewhere near 1% (and that is to high), and no I can’t prove that, it is solely based on my own research of the problem and is my own embellishment I guess…
Great response from both of you. Way to take on the tire police :B I'm in the camp that if you take care of the tires, with proper inflation, lower speeds and replace when they become too old, regardless of appearance, goes a long way. I bet 70-80% of trailer owners at a campground do not know to keep there tire at max cold pressure and keep the speeds under 65 mph...
Unless the ST tire proponents are the police... Can we be good cops vs bad cops?
I consider myself on the "good cop" side.
If I can save even one person the time and expense that I went thru, when I tried to make ST tires work.... I don't care what anyone thinks.
FYI.... At one time I was a very strong ST tire supporter.... I believed as many still do. I drank the kool aid about how it must be my fault, that the ST tires kept failing me.
Search my old posts and see for yourself.
I am now a convert. I am sometimes slow to learn, but I DO LEARN.kodiakcanuck wrote:
Great response from both of you. Way to take on the tire police :B I'm in the camp that if you take care of the tires, with proper inflation, lower speeds and replace when they become too old, regardless of appearance, goes a long way. I bet 70-80% of trailer owners at a campground do not know to keep there tire at max cold pressure and keep the speeds under 65 mph...
x2ReneeG wrote:
An article in Trailer Life magazine on trailer tires, brands, differences between LT and ST, what each can handle etc. Very good article. Yes, they do imply that ST tires are especially good at it but as I stated, that's not to say LT's are bad, but ST's are made specifically to handle the flexing. Here's the article. What's missing from the hard copy is a chart comparing all the trailer tires out there - Goodyear, Maxxiss, Towmaxx, Carlisle, etc.JJBIRISH wrote:
I don’t know why, but on this subject everyone seems to have the need to embellish their story and overstate the problems and the solutions to bolster their point of view…
I read all the horror stories about the ST tire just like everyone else, but most people I meet and talk to in the CG’s are completely unaware of the controversy… then there are many that have reported not having a problem with the ST tire… my own experience is the same, I have never had a ST tire failure even using them on dozens of trailers over many years, and very many tens of thousands of miles…
While I have never owned a horse trailer, my son has had a few of them… I have had many RV’s, cargo trailers, utility trailers, equipment trailers and boat trailers all sporting ST tires and still not one highway tire failure on any of them… the only catastrophic tire failure I have had in the last 30 or so years was a LT tire on my TV…
I DID have the OE tires that came on this trailer have three sidewalls fail but never while I was on the road and they all failed in the first few months after purchase and were replaced by the dealer at the dealers…
Most of the vocal LT advocates argue they have had multiple ST failures and have since learned… I personally believe when one person has that many problems the problems are deeper than just the tire…
Although if were to believe everything you read here, 100% of those that had a failure all religiously took good care of their tires, never over-loaded, never run under-inflated never exceeded the rated speed and are at a complete lose on what could be wrong… BULL…
I am convinced that the failure rate for the ST tire is somewhere near 1% (and that is to high), and no I can’t prove that, it is solely based on my own research of the problem and is my own embellishment I guess…
Great response from both of you. Way to take on the tire police :B I'm in the camp that if you take care of the tires, with proper inflation, lower speeds and replace when they become too old, regardless of appearance, goes a long way. I bet 70-80% of trailer owners at a campground do not know to keep there tire at max cold pressure and keep the speeds under 65 mph...wmoses wrote:
ReneeG wrote:
Couple of things here. We had a blowout on our fifth wheel recently and we have a TPMS system. No warning and I had just looked at the screen, when boom!
Just a little bit of a tangent here since I am in the market for a TPMS - can you tell me what brand / model you have?
TST Systems.Drew_K wrote:
Ahhh.. very good. I couldn't make out what that was.
Look at the second picture. It says Westlake on the sidewall.
