To "delete" or not to "delete"

ShinerBock wrote:

6.6 Oilburner wrote:
In Alaska, an additive that freezes at 11* Fahrenheit is working fantastic.

Uhm, if you knew as much as you say you do about these emission devices then you would see the error in this statement.

6.6 Oilburner wrote:
And because companies like swift and walmart who probably smash more trucks in a year than the average trucking company will own, clearly these systems are reliable?

Smash? What does that have to do about what we are talking about?

Instead of carrying on this conversation, I'll summarize.

6.6 Oilburner wrote:
You think complex emissions equipment were sent down from the heavens to decrease cancer by .005% So anyone seeking to delete their truck to save on fuel and repair bills is a greedy monster.

Please show me where I or anyone else besides yourself anything about these emission devices decreasing your cancer risk by .005%? That is a number you made up like just about everything else you stated here.

6.6 Oilburner wrote:
I think I'll take the money saved on fuel and install a radon mitigation system in my basement to offset the cancer I'm directly giving someone.

Okay, please show me proof of these fuel savings because Fuelly.com along with every review site of these diesels that dates back to the early 2000s before these emissions devices say that you are wrong.....completely wrong. So where is your proof to back up your statements? Please do not tell me that you are going by the lie-o-meter on these trucks because they are proven to be up to seven mpg off especially in the older trucks.

6.6 Oilburner wrote:
You can remain on your high horse looking down at people weighing their options all you'd like. That doesn't change the fact that Deleting emissions components in many cases will add fuel mileage and years of reliable service to the life of your vehicle.

Again, please prove this because Fuelly.com says your assuption is incorrect. So again, where is this proof to back up your claims.

I give up, you are right. The fleet managers, Owner operators, independent techs, OE techs and drivers I talk to are all confused about what their vehicles are doing. The 08 IH that came in on the hook at work today isn't really getting all its equipment swapped onto a new KW chassis because said fleet is sick of a truck that is consistently down. I haven't first hand seen deleted pickups owned by friends and customers go from 16mpg to 21mpg.

Oh, and silly me, the DEF delivery truck we built at work didn't need all that insulation and a heater in the meter box to prevent the metering equipment and piping from freezing.

I'm sorry I have no hard Data on paper, and considering the consensus of every last person I have had this conversation with in the industry in my area, I am BEYOND flabbergasted that you continue to praise how this equipment works and claim it poses no hardships on the end user.