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red92lx
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Jun 13, 2015

Too little truck or a bad hitch?

Hey everyone. Been lurking for years and learned a lot, but now I wanna get in on the conversation. About my question, my folks have a travel trailer we all use, both of them, plus my family (wife and 2 kids). They are considering selling it to us and then upgrading. I'm concerned about my TV being up for the job and will explain why below. Here's the specs on the trailer and truck.

Trailer- 2005 sunny brook sunset creek 298bh. (approx.) 6600 lbs dry and I want to say about 920 hitch weight.

Truck- 2003 Expedition Eddie Bauer, 5.4L, 4x4, with tow package. I believe it is 3.73 gearing. 260hp 350ft tq. and is rated up to 8600 or 8900 lbs with a weight distributing hitch.

Hitch- ez-lift weight distributing and a standard side mount sway bar.

Typically we use my dads truck, but I wanted to see how well the expedition towed so on the last trip we loaded the expedition up like normal(basically folded 3rd row down and filled with gear) and then hooked up the trailer. I figured add 1000 lbs to the trailers dry weight and we got 7600 lbs. I should be able to have another 1000 in the truck and still be under, albeit not by much.

So we started off and around town it was pretty good. Not a power house, but it's flat around here and power wasn't an issue. It stopped well and the trailer brakes would actually slow down the TV when I adjusted the controller. Once I got closer to 55 however, I noticed it just didn't seem as stable as with my father's truck.

At 50 I felt reasonably confident, but if I went faster I got a little nervous. Hard to describe, but it seemed like out of the blue the rear of the truck would briefly pull to one side. Not noticeable to my wife, but got me nervous. This set up (with my fathers 05 f150 screw) is very stable. It was not sway from what I could tell, but maybe I am wrong? It happened twice and it only lasted a second. Like a quick jerk on the rear of the TV. As soon as it happened it was pretty much gone and back to normal. Wasn't passing or being passed while it happened. Both time I was at about 55 mph.

This truck has IRS and I wonder if that is a factor, or maybe I would need to invest in a better hitch? I would like to buy this trailer, but I need it to be stable at about 60MPH for a few hours to the places we like to go. If that means a better hitch....no problem. But if I need a new TV that might change things. What do you guy think is going on here? Thanks for any ideas!
  • A Hensley or ProPride hitch would help with the wheelbase problem, along with driving carefully and not fast (60 mph). They're not cheap hitches but cost a lot less than a new tow vehicle.

    Pack light, and especially don't carry water. Buying groceries (especially drinks - water again) at your destination can help a lot with weight. Load up for a trip, and go to a Cat scale to see if you're still within limits. If you're not - pack lighter. If you can't, then it's time to get a new vehicle.
  • Just another example of towing at max capacity.

    Can you do it....YES.

    You will even get several on here that say the manufactures ratings are "less" then actual limits, due to liability issus, so you will be fine.

    Should you do it.....NOPE.

    Lot less white knuckling if you stay about 80% of what TV is capable of.

    Personally. I have much more truck than needed for my trailer. HOWEVER...if I was only doing a weekend or two, plus a vacation close to home. I would probably hold on tight and go for it. Not everyone can afford a new vehicle. Just remember you are more at risk to harm your TV, yourself, your family & others around you.
  • When I went from a 4,400 lbs. trailer to a 7,300 lbs. trailer with my '04 Expy, it was scary, had to stay under 45 mph. I was technically under the Expy's limits (weighed trailer at CAT scales, had my own a tongue weight scale), but the IRS (independent rear suspension) and passenger car tires were far too squishy.

    If you need new tires anyway, light truck tires might help. I also had looked into getting Sumo Springs for the rear coil-over-shock suspension. In the end, I decided the Expy just wasn't up to the task.
  • If you are going to be staying mainly in flat terrain and packing on the lighter side you should be OK. However along with being at the upper limit as to weight you are also at the upper limit and maybe over on the wheelbase side of the equation also.

    E rated tires and a very good WD/sway control system may be just the edge you need to get by for a few more years. As for the 1 & 3 year old we went to Florida with ours at that age. We would leave around 7 PM put Barney on the VCR (full size conversion van) and no worries. Drive non stop to Orlando other than gas, food and potty breaks. Pick up a 16 inch portable dvd player to keep the kids entertained and life is good!

    Good luck Don
  • Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
    That is a whole lot of trailer for that vehicle! The dry TW is 902# dry wgt is 6615# GVWR is 10,000# and at 32' that thing is not going to be fun to tow. Can it be done? As long as you stay under you TV ratings yes, but that is going to be next to impossible to do. By time you load the trailer up for a week long trip you will be near that 10,000# mark and well over you SUV's tow rating.

    Get a bigger tow vehicle or a smaller trailer, sorry my vote NO.

    Don

    Note, maybe adding E rated tires and packing lite you would be OK, but you are still asking a lot from a truck that is 12 years old!


    Well I was hoping I could get by for a couple years with it. The kids are young 1 and 3 so long trips are out of the picture. It's two or three nights max so maybe that will help keep the weight down. Thinking about it.....we do keep a lot of things in the front storage and maybe that didn't help.
  • wheel base on your rig may be too short. I vote no also. get a crew cab truck 3/4 ton.
  • That is a whole lot of trailer for that vehicle! The dry TW is 902# dry wgt is 6615# GVWR is 10,000# and at 32' that thing is not going to be fun to tow. Can it be done? As long as you stay under you TV ratings yes, but that is going to be next to impossible to do. By time you load the trailer up for a week long trip you will be near that 10,000# mark and well over you SUV's tow rating.

    Get a bigger tow vehicle or a smaller trailer, sorry my vote NO.

    Don

    Note, maybe adding E rated tires and packing lite you would be OK, but you are still asking a lot from a truck that is 12 years old!