Torque wars continue in the diesels

ShinerBock wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
My point is because you say something does it make it so? Fish is claiming Fords engine and trans are MD. My point is Cummins and AISIN are BOTH used in many different MD applications NOT just RAM.

THAT is what "I" claim they are TRUE MD.

That is only if you live in fanboy world(which both of you are guilty of). With that kind of messed up logic, then one could say that the PACCAR MX and PX engines are not really medium/heavy duty engines since they are not available in any other vehicles besides PACCAR vehicles (Peterbilt and Kenworth). Or that Detroit Diesels are not really medium/heavy duty since they are no longer available in any other vehicle than Diamler Truck vehicles(Freightliner and Western Star). Or that the MACK MP engines and mDrive & Maxitorque transmissions are not medium/heavy duty since they are not available in any other vehicle besides a MACK. See how silly that sounds?

In the real world where most of us live, logic and reason get to decide what is true or not. In that world, the Ford Powestroke and Torqshift are available in medium/heavy duty trucks just like the MACK engines and transmission are so that classifies them as medium duty engine and transmission as well.

Nice to read a sane and logical post here once and a while. It seems some lose all objectivity when they have the brand loyalty tunnel vision.