Tow Capacity Comparisons For 2015 Trucks
Here are three links to some truck brand comparisons for half-ton, three-quarter and one ton trucks with some jaw dropping surprises. Half-ton Truck Realistic Towing Capacity Three-quarter Ton...
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Lets see, GCWR is the ability to go up a 12% grade at that umber.....if you pull 18-24% grades, will I make it up to fetch a pail of water?!?!?! probably not. BUT, I will overheat and toast an auto tranny trying to go up the 18% grade in front of my sisters house. Or the 24.5% grade in a one block section of queen anne ave in seattle!, much less the 18% grade on James in down town seattle, or james in Kent was which is 15%! Do they tell me the deduct I need if I want to pull a gcw up these grade. NO! Oh, along with the manufacture WILL NOT warranty the tranny, as I was going up too steep a grade with the weight I was at!!!!!!!!
If I pull per the min sae tow specs gcwr, I will be going no slower than 40 with most single wheel pickups, and 35 with a dual wheel rig......They have not bothered to tell you at these speeds, In Michigan, IIRC Keith saying the minimum speed is 45mph! Here in Wa st it is 40 mph. IF you go SLOWER than these speeds, you get a ticket for going too slow, along with getting escorted off the interstate freeway to a side road......WHAT is the deduct for either rig, so I know I will be going faster than the minimum speed limit in the states I am towing thru?
The R in GCWR, GVWR, GAWR should be reccomendation, and the W Max Warranty amount, ie go over, your warranty is shot! IE you have none. Just like all the folks with fords that are not getting warranty if ANY amount of water is in the fuel system. Does not matter how it got there, you have water in the system, your rig is not covered under warranty!
Here in wa state, If I am driving down the road at 8001+ lbs in my door tagged 8600 gvwr C2500, I am over weight, and can get ticketed as such. As I only have purchased an 8000 lb plate. If I want to drive down the road at 8600, I would need the next higher plate which is 10K lbs. I WOULD BE LEGAL to 10k lbs too! I do not know of one LEO/CVEO that enforces the manufacture ratings! They all follow the what license weight I have paid for, up to a max of 20K per axel, 34.5K per tandem, and 80K total, these numbers can be limited to a min of 500 lbs per inch width of tire. THIS is the "engineers" max load limit of the road bed itself! THIS is the max weight LEO/CVEO's enforce! NOT the manufactures warranty/performance limits!
I have to buy a registered gvw tag equal to 1.5 times the tare of my truck, to the next highest ton! if I have a 7500 lb empty from the manufacture truck, with a 9900 door sticker......I need 7500 times 1.5 = 11250 or a 12K license. By the way, you are LEGAL to that 12K limit. But you may lose your warranty if something fails at that weight!
I've been pulled over too many times to count, over a manufactures limit, weighed, and NOT gotten an overweight ticket! as I have always been under my paid for license, and the Federal Bridge Law limits of the road bed design engineer specs. I can probably get Ben or Keith to design an axel to handle a million pounds. The MAX they could load this axel, drive down the road legally, would be 20K lbs! Those two's engineer stamps are worthless at this point, to the LEO/CVEO that pulls them over and weighs that axel at a million lbs. The asphalt, concrete, would be cracking under the weight of that axel. Bridges would collapse etc etc. THIS is what the weight laws enforce! NOT a manufacture performance warranty number!
Your insurance company will insure you as long as you are legal! even if illegal that will cover you to a point. After that, it is up to you!
Marty
If I pull per the min sae tow specs gcwr, I will be going no slower than 40 with most single wheel pickups, and 35 with a dual wheel rig......They have not bothered to tell you at these speeds, In Michigan, IIRC Keith saying the minimum speed is 45mph! Here in Wa st it is 40 mph. IF you go SLOWER than these speeds, you get a ticket for going too slow, along with getting escorted off the interstate freeway to a side road......WHAT is the deduct for either rig, so I know I will be going faster than the minimum speed limit in the states I am towing thru?
The R in GCWR, GVWR, GAWR should be reccomendation, and the W Max Warranty amount, ie go over, your warranty is shot! IE you have none. Just like all the folks with fords that are not getting warranty if ANY amount of water is in the fuel system. Does not matter how it got there, you have water in the system, your rig is not covered under warranty!
Here in wa state, If I am driving down the road at 8001+ lbs in my door tagged 8600 gvwr C2500, I am over weight, and can get ticketed as such. As I only have purchased an 8000 lb plate. If I want to drive down the road at 8600, I would need the next higher plate which is 10K lbs. I WOULD BE LEGAL to 10k lbs too! I do not know of one LEO/CVEO that enforces the manufacture ratings! They all follow the what license weight I have paid for, up to a max of 20K per axel, 34.5K per tandem, and 80K total, these numbers can be limited to a min of 500 lbs per inch width of tire. THIS is the "engineers" max load limit of the road bed itself! THIS is the max weight LEO/CVEO's enforce! NOT the manufactures warranty/performance limits!
I have to buy a registered gvw tag equal to 1.5 times the tare of my truck, to the next highest ton! if I have a 7500 lb empty from the manufacture truck, with a 9900 door sticker......I need 7500 times 1.5 = 11250 or a 12K license. By the way, you are LEGAL to that 12K limit. But you may lose your warranty if something fails at that weight!
I've been pulled over too many times to count, over a manufactures limit, weighed, and NOT gotten an overweight ticket! as I have always been under my paid for license, and the Federal Bridge Law limits of the road bed design engineer specs. I can probably get Ben or Keith to design an axel to handle a million pounds. The MAX they could load this axel, drive down the road legally, would be 20K lbs! Those two's engineer stamps are worthless at this point, to the LEO/CVEO that pulls them over and weighs that axel at a million lbs. The asphalt, concrete, would be cracking under the weight of that axel. Bridges would collapse etc etc. THIS is what the weight laws enforce! NOT a manufacture performance warranty number!
Your insurance company will insure you as long as you are legal! even if illegal that will cover you to a point. After that, it is up to you!
Marty
