Tow Vehicles on "this" list?

45Ricochet wrote:

This is very misleading. I would like to know where this data is gathered from and why.

catfishmontana wrote:

Ron3rd wrote:
Very misleading list IMO. They list the GM 3500 and 2500 which of course will be slower moving models. Plus, they don't compare them to other brands like Ford, etc, so we can compare. For instance, if they say a 3500 sits for 79 days on the lot, how long does an F350 sit? We don't know because they don't tell us. Maybe the Ford sits 78 days which makes the Chevy a slower seller.

Why is it misleading? It's then ten worst, not the ten worst compared to the others that aren't as bad. Bottom line is that those are the ten slowest selling automobiles according to their findings.

True, but they're slower by how much? How long does an F350 sit on the lot? Is it a big gap or a small gap? We're not given the info. Like I said, maybe an F350 sits on the lot for 78 days, so it's therefore a faster seller than the Chevy! Very misleading.

Lists, comparisons, polls, "best of's" etc. bring out the politician in us.

If we agree with the conclusion, it's good, hard, factual data to be trusted.

If we don't, it's flawed, used too small a sample size, and wasn't executed properly.

Spin, they call it :W

Reminds me of an old Kevin Nealon joke when he hosted Weekend Update on SNL:

"A recent poll shows that if the election was held today, today would be election day."

Dadoffourgirls wrote:

catfishmontana wrote:
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Why is it misleading? It's then ten worst, not the ten worst compared to the others that aren't as bad. Bottom line is that those are the ten slowest selling automobiles according to their findings.

They tell you it is based on cars.com. How does cars.com know when a vehicle arrives and is sold? Does cars.com publish every new car dealer in North Americas inventory? Or is this based on vehicles at dealers that pay cars.com to list their vehicle? How do they know when it arrived? When the dealer listed? Maybe dealers are putting it online when order is scheduled at plant? Maybe they put it online weeks after arrival.

It is telling a story based on their (cars.com) data that they do not disclose the process for obtaining.

I could make up many things that are not statistically valid. Publish on web. Include Pictures, and tell a factual story.

Dude... give it a rest. GM sold less vehicles for a reason. It's all opinions at this point including mine. :W

Randu wrote:
What is somewhat misleading is the fact that GM did a fairly large build ahead of 2014 models. Keep in mind the story was dated in early Jan. I believe the plants stopped 2014 production in early November to be down 3 months. This was for change over to the new body and interior of the 2015 HD series. New 2015 2500HD's are jut starting to hit lots now with the new interior and body to match up with the 1500 series that was updated with the 2014 models. Incentives are huge right now on the 2014 if you can find them. I saved just north of $11,000 from MSRP on a 2014 3500HD LTZ Duramax that I purchased yesterday.
There were only 2 within 250 miles of me that had SRW and Crew cab Long box. Randu

X2 purchased my 2014 GMC 3500 Denali DRW 4x4 for $13,000+ off MSRP in January.

TroutfishIdaho wrote:

This is very misleading. I would like to know where this data is gathered from and why.

I believe they use Polk LINK just like Ford, GM and Ram do. It will cost you though :W Same with JD Powers if you use it in a ad.
Yeah no bull with Polk buddy. Actually they track daily changes thus the big INCENTIVES mid month :B They also give out many figures as to how many 35 series sold and inventory numbers. The 35 series numbers are a joke, but those 1500 are..... ahh forget it.
March should be better, fingers crossed.
When does that 2015 MY Ford come out again :H

catfishmontana wrote:
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This is very misleading. I would like to know where this data is gathered from and why.

Comes from pickuptrucks.com.
Misleading? In relation to what?
Why? Because people like numbers.

Randu wrote:
What is somewhat misleading is the fact that GM did a fairly large build ahead of 2014 models. Keep in mind the story was dated in early Jan. I believe the plants stopped 2014 production in early November to be down 3 months. This was for change over to the new body and interior of the 2015 HD series. New 2015 2500HD's are jut starting to hit lots now with the new interior and body to match up with the 1500 series that was updated with the 2014 models. Incentives are huge right now on the 2014 if you can find them. I saved just north of $11,000 from MSRP on a 2014 3500HD LTZ Duramax that I purchased yesterday.
There were only 2 within 250 miles of me that had SRW and Crew cab Long box. Randu

I just finished pricing out all three today, Ram option for option, was better priced for the loaded Laramie ,then the LTZ. GM is pushing the onstar instead of the navagation, camera setup , the dealer I was at today did not have one LTZ with nav., yet I could get a fully loaded Ram for the same money, a loaded Lariat was about 4 grand more than the other two, roughly 10K off the sticker on both the Laramie, and the LTZ .

BB_TX wrote:

catfishmontana wrote:
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This is very misleading. I would like to know where this data is gathered from and why.

Comes from pickuptrucks.com.
Misleading? In relation to what?
Why? Because people like numbers.

It was tongue in cheek.....

People are reading way to much into this 'one month' list... It makes absolute perfect sense that 2014, yes 2014 GM HDs trucks are on the list. Updated 2015 models are rolling into dealers and consumers have known this since late last year. It's not like dealers hold much inventory of HD trucks anyways.