Towing Capacity and Travel Trailer weight.

Folks are making a lot of assumptions and guesses in their responses. Armada tow ratings vary based on the year, specific trim level and if they have the tow package or not. You did not provide any of that information so no valid responses can be given.

I've been towing my 7,800 pound (brochure dry weight 6030) Open Range for over a year and more than 20,000 miles all over the country including a recent trip to WY and CO thru several 11,000'+ passes with no problems at all. I'm towing with a 2013 Platinum with the tow package. Tow capacity is 9,100 and I don't have any of my weight ratings overloaded or maxed out based on CAT weights. The Armada makes an excellent tow vehicle if you want or need an SUV instead of a pick up truck.

You can get a lot of actual information instead of weight police gobbledy gook by reading here - Armada Owners Club

look for the nissan disclaimer....

The towing capacity values are calculated
assuming a base vehicle with driver and any
options required to achieve the rating. Additional
passengers, cargo and/or optional equipment
will add weight to the vehicle and reduce your
vehicle™s maximum towing capacity.

****** I would load up the Armada with the cargo and passengers you plan to haul and take it to a scale.

Check the numbers to see if your #'s match or are close to these.
As for the trailer, look at the gross weight rating because that is where most people load them to. See if the Armada falls within the specs.
Watch the hitch weight rating , it might have to come down to, how you load the combo.

Its not a good idea to load the TT heavy in the rear, to try to reduce hitch weight. Its also not a good idea to firm up the WD bars to much so its lifts the rear of the TV . Your load should be balanced in the TV and TT in order to handle crosswinds and bow waves of overtaking semi's / buses.

See where the extra cargo weight margin is going to fall, on the TT or on the TV . Your heavier items might have to be toted where you have the weight capacity to haul that stuff.

As for the Armada:

GVWR- 7150
CVWR- 15100
MAX TOW- 9100
MAX TONGUE- 910
MAX FRONT AXLE- 3399
MAX REAR AXLE- 4299 as i said, tire weight rating ??? will probably be the limiting factor . See if the 2 tires added together equal this rating. Then Nissan uses the tires as the rating marker.

My guess is you have the Armada's weight ratings a bit confused?

Your quote of the "tow rating" sounds more like it's actual GVWR.

Your quote of the Armada's "GVWR" sounds more like it's "tow rating"...

What is the figure you are quoting off the Armada's door jamb sticker?

This is mine off my F150.



This tells you the specs for the truck itself. Has nothing to do with it's "tow rating"..

If you have an Armada with a #9100 GVWR, well, it's one of a kind.. ;)

Good luck!

Mitch

The PT 26 will roll down the road at approx 7k# with 900#-1000# hitch wt.
Its kind of easy to max out a TT GVWR. I can get very close to those numbers with my same floorplan minus the bunks. Travel light.
Items loaded in the back of the TV rear axle is added to hitch weight. Keep the Armada cargo weight in between its axles.

Go to a scale.

Armada is near and maybe beyond its limits. It also has a relatively small fuel tank. Expect poor fuel mileage as well as frequent fuel stops. Armada is not a good full time TV vehicle of choice, its too easy to overload its weight ratings.
Watch your tire ratings, the weight rating is stamped on the tire.

Be careful loading both TV and TT. If you use 1000# spring bars, you have to be careful loading the front of the TT. Do not put heavy items under the bed or the pass thru area.

WD hitch set up is going to be very important. Learn how to do it correctly.

The advertised dry weight of my 25 ft TT is 5004 lbs. Across the CAT scales it weighs 6400 lbs loaded and ready for the road.

More important the tongue weight is close to 700 lbs. With a TV max cargo rating of 1400 lbs, two adults and a dog with camp gear put me at the recommended limit.

Most TV run out of cargo capacity before towing capacity.

Armada

weight 5,302 to 5,674
GVWR 9,100
GVWR RR 4,300

Trailer - http://www.primetimerv.com/product-details.aspx?LineID=256&Image=6829&ModelID=2168#Main
Dry weight 4,763
CCC 2,711

I can't find the specific GVWR for the trailer. Is it dry weight + CCC?

(dry weight + CCC) * 0.12 = 896

896 + Armada weight(6000) = around 7000

7000 < 9100

We'll need a bit more information to give you useful answers. Do you know:

1) The GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) of your particular Armada? It might be on a sticker on the driver's side door frame. The GVWRR (rear axle rating) would be good to know, too.

2) Next, you'll need to load up the Armada with people, pets, full fuel, hitch, and anything else you would have in the vehicle while traveling and head for the nearest CAT scale. You'll get separate front and rear weights as well as a total weight. Subtract that total from the GVWR on the sticker or documentation. That will be the weight you have left over for payload (tongue weight for the trailer).

3) Forget dry/UV weights for trailers - they're not very useful. Use the GVWR for the trailer and, for a tow-behind, calculate 12% of that for an estimated tongue weight. Is the result more or less that your calculated payload for the Armada above? If over, that's red flag #1.

4) Next, add the total weight for your loaded Armada and the GVWR for the trailer. Is the sum more or less than the GCVWR (Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating) for your tow vehicle and trailer combo. If it's over the rating, that's red flag #2.

I had a medical director once who's undergrad was math. His motto was, "In God we trust - all others bring data." Data translate to safety in terms of towing.

Rob