Towing Capacity Question

Desert Captain wrote:
Dry weights are worse than useless, never rely on them. With the OP's 8,800 GVWR his tongue weight should be 1,144# + at least an additional 100# for the weight of the hitch. This puts him 300#+ over his hitch limit.

He will not be able to tow his alleged towing capacity of 9,200# as he will have run out of payload long before that. The OP needs a lot less trailer or a lot more TV... it is just that simple. "Light" loading is not going to change the math.

Good luck.

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Couldn't have said it better myself.

Get something with a solid rear axle and these problems will probably go away. The Expedition's IRS doesn't have sufficient capacity to handle a heavy tongue weight trailer like that which you propose.

On a related note, by the time you consider the weight of passengers, a lot of 1/2 ton pickups might find themselves in the same situation.

Dry weights are worse than useless, never rely on them. With the OP's 8,800 GVWR his tongue weight should be 1,144# + at least an additional 100# for the weight of the hitch. This puts him 300#+ over his hitch limit.

He will not be able to tow his alleged towing capacity of 9,200# as he will have run out of payload long before that. The OP needs a lot less trailer or a lot more TV... it is just that simple. "Light" loading is not going to change the math.

Good luck.

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AlmostAnOldGuy wrote:
What does the yellow payload sticker on the driver door list for payload?

My trailer weighs 6500 empty and 8000 loaded. My loaded tongue weight is right around 1,000.

Take it easy,
Stu

I would be worried about payload also.

You can do it if you pack light with NO water. Put some good tires on the Expy. It took me three times to dial in my Equalizer. I have the 5.4 V8, you will have plenty of power....

My Tahoe is similar and I wouldn’t exceed 6k. Wheelbase is another issue.

What does the yellow payload sticker on the driver door list for payload?

My trailer weighs 6500 empty and 8000 loaded. My loaded tongue weight is right around 1,000.

Take it easy,
Stu

Any passengers etc in the Expy will reduce payload rating.
I usually recommend keeping the trailer GVWR within the tow rating for best results so in that you look fine. Just don't fill every seat belt or carry a cord of wood in the back.

My BIL tows a 27' trailer with a max gross of about 7000 lbs Expedition EL. It is the prior model but has the 3.5 EB engine. It does okay, certainly has plenty of power, but it's about as big as I'd want to try with an Expedition. Again this is the previous model so I can't say how it compares to a 2019, although I'm pretty sure the max tow rating on it is also 9200 lbs. I don't recall the exact numbers but the payload and max axle ratings on it aren't exactly overwhelming so I'd be sure to check the numbers carefully. Also think about how far you would tow and how you would load the trailer. Most people here assume max GVWR for the trailer weight to be conservative but that might not be how you pack (be aware of creep, though - stuff really tends to accumulate in a camper over time).