Towing capacity vs max cargo weight rating

MFL wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

MFL wrote:
No, your truck did not leave the factory full of fuel. Your selling dealer may fill fuel (mine does). With so many pages of opinions, some facts, can be misleading. Throw in a forum of armchair legal advisors, makes it more difficult than it needs to be.

Your truck's GCVWR, allows for towing a 15K GN/FW, that is a fact! Your RAWR, which includes tires/wheels, axle, and suspension, dictates the load you can carry. I and others, said way early in this thread, that after getting separate axle weights, when no trailer connected, will tell you how much more you can add to the rear axle, in your case, the gooseneck trailer hitch wt.

You have a very capable truck! Again...getting a new gas truck, is your choice, but while it may show a larger number on that payload sticker, your RAWR will be similar, and is what matters.

Jerry

Well MFL you are also giving a forum legal opinion.
To a fact the 15,000# towing rating is what the truck is rated to pull, it may not be able to carry the pin weight associated with that weight. Any F2500 I have read about on this and other forums that even get near max axle rating needed air bags to level due to Ford putting soft rear springs on them.

You also make this statement "Your RAWR, which includes tires/wheels, axle, and suspension, dictates the load you can carry." you have forgotten frame.
In 2021 Ford and GM have started upping the GVWR of 250/2500's to as high as 11,500# at which point they are now a Class 3 truck and should be labeled as 350/3500!

Yes, legal opinions, are just that, and is why the manufacturer supplies axle rating.

I think Spoon already explained to you, that the frame is very capable of handling anything the axle/tires can handle.

You don't seem to be familiar with Ford trucks, especially the F250, such as the one I own. I ordered mine with F350 suspension, heavy duty service option. My truck does not need anything added to carry 6,200 on R/A , with very little squat. Many F250s have the added camper pkg, which is 350 suspension with sway bar.

Your views have changed a lot since getting your DRW 3500, which is a great choice for you. Everyone does not choose to have more truck than they need.

Would a class 3 truck be a better choice for OP? Yes, if he decides to get a new truck. The truck he already owns, will work great, if he stays within R/A, and max tire rating.

Jerry

Well I was a Ford exclusive owner for 45 years, that changed when I wanted a diesel, I wasn’t going to buy a 6.0, and I felt the Cummins was a better engine and worth the gamble on the Dodge wrapper. I have not been disappointed.

Well from 1994 to 2002 Dodge/Ram didn’t offer a SRW 3500 the 2500 with camper package and optional 265/85-16E tires gave it plenty of capacity NONE of which I was reflected in the VIN sticker front axle 5,200#, rear axle 6,084# and GVWR 8,800#.
The camper package included the same rear springs as the 3500 DRW, tires rated at 3,415# ea. The standard tires were 245/75-16E rated at 3,042# ea.
I towed our 5er within about 200# of rating and never had a need for bags, GVW was 10,500# so 1,700# over GVWR. I just wasn’t comfortable being in legal limbo.
As to the current TV if I would have bought a 3500 SRW I likely would have been right at GVWR of 12,300#. We and our stuff carried in the truck weighs 1,400# and a 2,700# pin is 4,200# a payload I don’t think F350 SRW diesel, crew cab, long before 2021 could cover as the max GVWR was 11,500#.
Why didn’t Ford step up their GVWR on the SRW 3500’s to 12,300# or 12,400# before 2021 Kyle it be the frame??

So I really don’t have more TV than I need.