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ejd43
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May 05, 2019

Towing questions

Hello my fellow campers! New to the forum and I figured someone here could help me with a concern I have. Last fall we had upgraded our camper, we went from a hybrid to a 32 foot travel trailer. While towing it home I watched all my temperature gauges to make sure all was well. My transmission temp sat around 160-170 on the 4 hour drive home, and the oil temp stayed around 215 degrees, engine temp was normal as well. However, towing it from winter storage to our campground a few weeks ago I noticed everything was still in good range except for my oil temperature. It was 248 in just the hour trip from my house to the campground. My question is, would it be wise to install an oil cooler, or should I run better oil in my truck? We have one long haul trip planned in July, it's only 6 hours but I don't want to compromise my truck in the process. Any suggestions would be very appreciated.

By the way my truck is a 2013 Ram 1500.

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  • LoudRam's avatar
    LoudRam
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    May 17, 2019
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    robertr93 wrote:
    Is there a recommendation on engine oils in towing? My TV oil temp raises whenever I go up hills for more than a mile. Normal range is at about 190 but when going up hill it can reach 215-220 degrees. How high is too high before I have to pull over? I'm relatively new to towing a trailer and I have a trip coming up in July where I have to go through mountains for an extended distance.


    As far as weight, use what is recommended for your truck. As far as brand your going to get a thousand answers. I use Walmart full synthetic. It's got an API rating so that's what I go with. But use a good filter. Wix makes a good filter. They make NAPA filters.
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    time2roll
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    May 17, 2019
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    What gear you in, what speed you runnin' and what RPM are you turning? I recommend Mobil 1 oil but I doubt it will help much. Keep your rpm 2500+ on the flats and a bit more on the hills.

    Otherwise put some tape over the gauge and drive.
  • robertr93's avatar
    robertr93
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    Is there a recommendation on engine oils in towing? My TV oil temp raises whenever I go up hills for more than a mile. Normal range is at about 190 but when going up hill it can reach 215-220 degrees. How high is too high before I have to pull over? I'm relatively new to towing a trailer and I have a trip coming up in July where I have to go through mountains for an extended distance.
  • trailer_newbe's avatar
    trailer_newbe
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    May 08, 2019
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    250 in the summer towing a heavy trailer in mountain areas I would consider normal. This time of year, I would look into the matter. As far as towing your trailer with a 1/2 ton, you are close, but doesn't appear over. Under these conditions everything needs to be in good shape and performing close to new.
  • LoudRam's avatar
    LoudRam
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    May 07, 2019
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    philh wrote:


    Which seals do you think "swell"? Most sealing is done with RTV. Rotating parts and some other seals are a polymer, so they don't react to anything in the oil.


    https://www.cars.com/articles/is-oil-for-high-mileage-engines-worth-the-extra-cost-1420680439321/

    https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2014/05/use-high-mileage-oil-car.html

    These two articles explain what happens when you use high mileage oil and what seals are affected better than I could.
  • philh's avatar
    philh
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    May 07, 2019
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    LoudRam wrote:
    How so? The additives in high milage oil swell the seals to stop leaks and blow by. The seals then brake in or wear in again with the expanded size. If you stop using high milage oil then the seals shrink back to the original size and leak more.

    Now there was a myth about once you use synthetic oil you can't go back to regular dino oil. Is that what you were thinking of?


    Which seals do you think "swell"? Most sealing is done with RTV. Rotating parts and some other seals are a polymer, so they don't react to anything in the oil.
  • TurnThePage's avatar
    TurnThePage
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    May 07, 2019
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    My oil routinely climbs close to 240-250 when towing my trailer. The truck has lots of built in protection, which has never reared it's head yet. Mine is a 2015 Ram 1500.
  • LoudRam's avatar
    LoudRam
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    philh wrote:
    LoudRam wrote:
    But be warned if you use high milage oil (any brand) for any length of time you'll have to stick with high mileage from that point on.

    Untrue urban legend


    How so? The additives in high milage oil swell the seals to stop leaks and blow by. The seals then brake in or wear in again with the expanded size. If you stop using high milage oil then the seals shrink back to the original size and leak more.

    Now there was a myth about once you use synthetic oil you can't go back to regular dino oil. Is that what you were thinking of?
  • philh's avatar
    philh
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    LoudRam wrote:
    But be warned if you use high milage oil (any brand) for any length of time you'll have to stick with high mileage from that point on.

    Untrue urban legend
  • gmckenzie's avatar
    gmckenzie
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    May 06, 2019
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    ejd43 wrote:
    My apologies, the camper is a keystone cougar. Unladen weight is 7,000 lbs. It says my max is 8500 lbs that I can tow according to the chart. I really hope I didn't miscalculate what the truck can actually haul.


    What model Cougar? Most with a dry weight of 7K are more than 8.5K loaded. And dry weight is irrelevant.

    I think you don't have enough truck for the trailer.

    For comparison, I have a 2015 GMC Sierra with their full on trailer package. Brochure says I can pull 10,900 and I'm at the payload limit with a trailer weighing 8,200 (actual scale weight).

    But I'm not sure engine oil temp would be the first to overheat. I'd think the tranny and coolant would heat up first, so that's odd.

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robertr93 wrote:
Is there a recommendation on engine oils in towing? My TV oil temp raises whenever I go up hills for more than a mile. Normal range is at about 190 but when going up hill it can reach 215-220 degrees. How high is too high before I have to pull over? I'm relatively new to towing a trailer and I have a trip coming up in July where I have to go through mountains for an extended distance.


As far as weight, use what is recommended for your truck. As far as brand your going to get a thousand answers. I use Walmart full synthetic. It's got an API rating so that's what I go with. But use a good filter. Wix makes a good filter. They make NAPA filters.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-05-17T15:48:53.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-05-17T15:48:53.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":567},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3203078/message:3203101","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"709","rawBody":"
robertr93 wrote:
Is there a recommendation on engine oils in towing? My TV oil temp raises whenever I go up hills for more than a mile. Normal range is at about 190 but when going up hill it can reach 215-220 degrees. How high is too high before I have to pull over? I'm relatively new to towing a trailer and I have a trip coming up in July where I have to go through mountains for an extended distance.


As far as weight, use what is recommended for your truck. As far as brand your going to get a thousand answers. I use Walmart full synthetic. It's got an API rating so that's what I go with. But use a good filter. Wix makes a good filter. They make NAPA filters.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3203101_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"Rank:rank:39":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:39","position":29,"name":"Nomad","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:108257":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:108257","uid":108257,"login":"time2roll","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2005-03-21T19:03:16.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:39"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:108257"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3203100":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3203100","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3203100":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:108257"},"id":"message:3203100","revisionNum":1,"uid":3203100,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3203078"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3203078"},"subject":"Re: Towing questions","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3203100"},"body":"What gear you in, what speed you runnin' and what RPM are you turning? I recommend Mobil 1 oil but I doubt it will help much. Keep your rpm 2500+ on the flats and a bit more on the hills.

Otherwise put some tape over the gauge and drive.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-05-17T15:07:12.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-05-17T15:07:12.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":567},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3203078/message:3203100","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"250","rawBody":"What gear you in, what speed you runnin' and what RPM are you turning? I recommend Mobil 1 oil but I doubt it will help much. Keep your rpm 2500+ on the flats and a bit more on the hills.

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This time of year, I would look into the matter. As far as towing your trailer with a 1/2 ton, you are close, but doesn't appear over. Under these conditions everything needs to be in good shape and performing close to new.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3203098_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3203097":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3203097","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3203097":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:142276"},"id":"message:3203097","revisionNum":1,"uid":3203097,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3203078"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3203078"},"subject":"Re: Towing questions","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3203097"},"body":"
philh wrote:


Which seals do you think \"swell\"? Most sealing is done with RTV. Rotating parts and some other seals are a polymer, so they don't react to anything in the oil.


https://www.cars.com/articles/is-oil-for-high-mileage-engines-worth-the-extra-cost-1420680439321/

https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2014/05/use-high-mileage-oil-car.html

These two articles explain what happens when you use high mileage oil and what seals are affected better than I could.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-05-07T12:57:31.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-05-07T12:57:31.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":566},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3203078/message:3203097","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"842","rawBody":"
philh wrote:


Which seals do you think \"swell\"? Most sealing is done with RTV. Rotating parts and some other seals are a polymer, so they don't react to anything in the oil.


https://www.cars.com/articles/is-oil-for-high-mileage-engines-worth-the-extra-cost-1420680439321/

https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2014/05/use-high-mileage-oil-car.html

These two articles explain what happens when you use high mileage oil and what seals are affected better than I could.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3203097_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"Rank:rank:41":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:41","position":33,"name":"Explorer II","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:115323":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:115323","uid":115323,"login":"philh","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2015-05-11T06:12:24.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:115323"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3203096":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3203096","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3203096":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:115323"},"id":"message:3203096","revisionNum":1,"uid":3203096,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3203078"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3203078"},"subject":"Re: Towing questions","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3203096"},"body":"
LoudRam wrote:
How so? The additives in high milage oil swell the seals to stop leaks and blow by. The seals then brake in or wear in again with the expanded size. If you stop using high milage oil then the seals shrink back to the original size and leak more.

Now there was a myth about once you use synthetic oil you can't go back to regular dino oil. Is that what you were thinking of?


Which seals do you think \"swell\"? Most sealing is done with RTV. Rotating parts and some other seals are a polymer, so they don't react to anything in the oil.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-05-07T08:35:31.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-05-07T08:35:31.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":566},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3203078/message:3203096","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"602","rawBody":"
LoudRam wrote:
How so? The additives in high milage oil swell the seals to stop leaks and blow by. The seals then brake in or wear in again with the expanded size. If you stop using high milage oil then the seals shrink back to the original size and leak more.

Now there was a myth about once you use synthetic oil you can't go back to regular dino oil. Is that what you were thinking of?


Which seals do you think \"swell\"? Most sealing is done with RTV. Rotating parts and some other seals are a polymer, so they don't react to anything in the oil.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3203096_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:231338":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:231338","uid":231338,"login":"TurnThePage","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2003-10-08T10:31:01.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-3.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:231338"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3203095":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3203095","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3203095":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:231338"},"id":"message:3203095","revisionNum":1,"uid":3203095,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3203078"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3203078"},"subject":"Re: Towing questions","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3203095"},"body":"My oil routinely climbs close to 240-250 when towing my trailer. The truck has lots of built in protection, which has never reared it's head yet. Mine is a 2015 Ram 1500.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"172","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-05-06T22:53:28.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-05-06T22:53:28.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":566},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3203078/message:3203095","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"172","rawBody":"My oil routinely climbs close to 240-250 when towing my trailer. The truck has lots of built in protection, which has never reared it's head yet. Mine is a 2015 Ram 1500.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3203095_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3203094":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3203094","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3203094":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:142276"},"id":"message:3203094","revisionNum":1,"uid":3203094,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3203078"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3203078"},"subject":"Re: Towing questions","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3203094"},"body":"
philh wrote:
LoudRam wrote:
But be warned if you use high milage oil (any brand) for any length of time you'll have to stick with high mileage from that point on.

Untrue urban legend


How so? The additives in high milage oil swell the seals to stop leaks and blow by. The seals then brake in or wear in again with the expanded size. If you stop using high milage oil then the seals shrink back to the original size and leak more.

Now there was a myth about once you use synthetic oil you can't go back to regular dino oil. Is that what you were thinking of?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-05-06T20:51:45.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-05-06T20:51:45.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":566},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3203078/message:3203094","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"643","rawBody":"
philh wrote:
LoudRam wrote:
But be warned if you use high milage oil (any brand) for any length of time you'll have to stick with high mileage from that point on.

Untrue urban legend


How so? The additives in high milage oil swell the seals to stop leaks and blow by. The seals then brake in or wear in again with the expanded size. If you stop using high milage oil then the seals shrink back to the original size and leak more.

Now there was a myth about once you use synthetic oil you can't go back to regular dino oil. Is that what you were thinking of?","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3203094_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3203093":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3203093","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3203093":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:115323"},"id":"message:3203093","revisionNum":1,"uid":3203093,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3203078"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3203078"},"subject":"Re: Towing questions","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3203093"},"body":"
LoudRam wrote:
But be warned if you use high milage oil (any brand) for any length of time you'll have to stick with high mileage from that point on.

Untrue urban legend","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"173","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-05-06T17:07:48.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-05-06T17:07:48.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":566},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3203078/message:3203093","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"204","rawBody":"
LoudRam wrote:
But be warned if you use high milage oil (any brand) for any length of time you'll have to stick with high mileage from that point on.

Untrue urban legend","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3203093_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:256568":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:256568","uid":256568,"login":"gmckenzie","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2014-06-23T08:01:43.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-7.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:256568"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3203092":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3203092","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3203092":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:256568"},"id":"message:3203092","revisionNum":1,"uid":3203092,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3203078"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3203078"},"subject":"Re: Towing questions","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3203092"},"body":"
ejd43 wrote:
My apologies, the camper is a keystone cougar. Unladen weight is 7,000 lbs. It says my max is 8500 lbs that I can tow according to the chart. I really hope I didn't miscalculate what the truck can actually haul.


What model Cougar? Most with a dry weight of 7K are more than 8.5K loaded. And dry weight is irrelevant.

I think you don't have enough truck for the trailer.

For comparison, I have a 2015 GMC Sierra with their full on trailer package. Brochure says I can pull 10,900 and I'm at the payload limit with a trailer weighing 8,200 (actual scale weight).

But I'm not sure engine oil temp would be the first to overheat. I'd think the tranny and coolant would heat up first, so that's odd.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-05-06T10:59:51.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-05-06T10:59:51.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":566},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:3203078/message:3203092","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"781","rawBody":"
ejd43 wrote:
My apologies, the camper is a keystone cougar. Unladen weight is 7,000 lbs. It says my max is 8500 lbs that I can tow according to the chart. I really hope I didn't miscalculate what the truck can actually haul.


What model Cougar? Most with a dry weight of 7K are more than 8.5K loaded. And dry weight is irrelevant.

I think you don't have enough truck for the trailer.

For comparison, I have a 2015 GMC Sierra with their full on trailer package. Brochure says I can pull 10,900 and I'm at the payload limit with a trailer weighing 8,200 (actual scale weight).

But I'm not sure engine oil temp would be the first to overheat. I'd think the tranny and coolant would heat up first, so that's odd.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3203092_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1741694506000","value":{"ariaLabelClosed":"Press the down arrow to open the menu"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741694506000","value":{"escalationMessage":"Escalated to Salesforce by {username} on {date}","viewDetails":"View Details","modalTitle":"Case Details","escalatedBy":"Escalated by: ","escalatedOn":"Escalated on: ","caseNumber":"Case Number: ","status":"Status: ","lastUpdateDate":"Last Update: ","automaticEscalation":"automatic escalation","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741694506000","value":{"authorName":"View Profile: {author}","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741694506000","value":{"rankName":"{rankName}","userRank":"Author rank {rankName}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741694506000","value":{"postTime":"Published: {time}","lastPublishTime":"Last Update: {time}","conversation.lastPostingActivityTime":"Last posting activity time: {time}","conversation.lastPostTime":"Last post time: {time}","moderationData.rejectTime":"Rejected time: {time}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741694506000","value":{"solved":"Solved"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741694506000","value":{"noSubject":"(no subject)"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741694506000","value":{"showMessageBody":"Show More","mentionsErrorTitle":"{mentionsType, select, board {Board} user {User} message {Message} other {}} No Longer Available","mentionsErrorMessage":"The {mentionsType} you are trying to view has been removed from the community.","videoProcessing":"Video is being processed. 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