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schoolkeeper
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Feb 16, 2018

Towing with a Ford Expedition EL 8900 Lbs at max weight

I have a question regarding towing at max GVWR.

I am looking at the Imagine 2970RL

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UVW* 7324 lbs
Hitch Weight* 795 lbs
GVWR 8995 lbs

My SUV is rated to tow max 8900 lbs. 2013 Ford Expedition EL 2WD. What are the risks of exceeding the GVWR by a couple lbs. and if I don't load it up and stay under is it wise to tow max weight with this SUV?

I am new at this (FIRST RV) and haven't made my purchase, the other option is the 2800 BH - which is well under weight and have no issues or concerns with.

Would love some guidance from experienced folks out there.
  • Likely too much trailer for your Expy. You’ll exceed your payload rating once loaded and add tongue weight and probably your tow rating too. For 2013 your tow rating was calculated with 150lbs in the expy for driver weight. Anything else added to the vehicle above that reduces the tow rating pound for pound. Don’t forget that those kids aren’t going to get any smaller either.

    A few hundred pounds over GVWR isn’t going to kill anything but be sure to stay under the tire and axle ratings if you do tow it. I don’t think you’ll be happy though pulling nearly 9k with the 5.4l.
  • i was in your shoes back in 2015 looking for a trailer to tow behind my 2014 Expedition. I think you may be confused as to what your Espy can tow. I think I am maxed out with my 24 ft Jayco Jay Flight. My weight of my trailer is about 6000 lbs when loaded for a trip and my Expy weighs 6220 lbs with a full tank of gas and me. Also, my tongue weight is about 800 lbs. Now add your passengers and all the gear your Expedition will carry and you are very close to your 15,ooo lb. And I think your tongue weight will surprise you when you are loaded up.

    I've seen Expy's towing some bigger trailers than mine but I wouldn't want to risk it. In 3 years we've taken many long trips in the Rocky's and my setup works very well. My only complaint is the gas mileage which ranges between 7 & 12 MPG depending on the wind and the hills. Hope that helps you
  • Why consider maxing out? What can you lift max? Now lift that all day long. How fast can you run? Now run that all day long. Any issues?
  • schoolkeeper wrote:
    Are you referring to the GCWR on the Ford If so, it is 15000lbs


    He is referring to the yellow/white tire loading sticker on driver door jam. It will give a do not exceed XXXX for vehicle max payload.

    The trailer you are looking at is nice, but at 34', and loaded to camp weight, it is more than most would want behind your tow vehicle. An Excursion with V-10, or 3/4 ton pickup with 6.2 would be much better suited for the task.

    Jerry
  • What is the payload on the sticker on the door jamb?
  • TUCQUALA

    2013 Ford Expedition EL 2WD
    5.4L SOHC V8 with a 3.73 Axel Ratio (max Tow 8900lbs)
    Max Tongue Load 890lbs.

    When you mean as built, you are referring to the specific trailer i am looking to purchase?

    I have 2 kids and wife and 2 dogs. There are not too many choices out there other than the Bunkhouses that really make sense.
  • You may or may not reach the trailers max GVW. All depends on how much stuff you put in it!! Do you know what the load figure of the trailer is as built, or one like it? Just using the "sales" weight figures show aboot a 1670 lb carry capacity. You probably will be very near the max if lots of food, clothes, and carry a full water load. At that weight, your Expy should ok, but won't set any speed records on hills. Only engine back then was the 3V 310 hp 5.4L V8. Axle ratio will also be involved as to towing weight and ease.

    My combo is somewhat near the same as yours may be, with 4.30 axles, our Excursion and our max GVW of 9200 for the trailer is right at the top of the factory figures. We do well even in the mountains. The V10 is a pretty good puller esp when running in the higher rpms needed. Your V8 will rev pretty good also keeping speeds up on hills.

    Not to knock your choices, but as a first time buyer, maybe a smaller unit would be a better idea. Or, rental to see how your tow vehicle does, and how you do also!! We started around 19ft years ago, and have slowly moved up to our present 34ft "monster".