towing with suv???

It depends on the SUV. Diesel is far, far superior to gas with anything other than large truck based SUVs. I towed a Nash 25c with no real issues from seattle to Yellowstone and Glacier with an ML350 diesel v6 (very similar to Jeep Grand Cherokee diesel). Sticker weight was 5750, and we were running around 6600 (ml350 is rated to 7200). Equalizer 4 points hitch. We had no problem pulling or braking (diesel has wonderful engine braking), but there was some mild sway and porpoising when it got really windy. Slowing to 55 for a bit took care of that, but a better hitch, and lower weight would help too. As a rule, I'd look for dry sticker weight about 2k under rated weight, and diesel is highly recommended.

Thanks E&J push'n wind, the sticker inside the truck says GVWR 7900lb & the manufacturer GCWR is 15000lb. So I am confused then, I have a tow rating of 8750lbs, if you add the 7900lb and 8750 lb together you get 16650 as a GCVR, that is 1650lb over the GCVR that the manufacturer has published. So am I really only able to tow 7100lbs?

AntonB wrote:
Hello I am new to this forum & have a question. I own a 2008 Ford Expedition EL w/ a listed tow rating of 8750 (HD Tow Package) . I have a bead on a 1997 Jayco. It is 31 feet long & weighs 7400lbs. Is that too much for this truck? Also plan to get a to get a Reese torsion bar hitch w/ anti sway bar.

That is a VERY open ended question. You are gonna get all kinds of asnswer from, don't do it; to, you'll be fine, depending on which camp the answer comes from.

If you go by the numbers, you'll be marginal and closer to the ragged edge if not over. Again by the numbers. You'll need the GVWR and the GCWR of your Expi. You'll need the tongue weight and GVWR (though you may not load it to its GVWR) of said TT as well. Your TT will most likely be close to 12% to 13% of the loaded weight of the TT so this will determin what will be sagging off of the hitch. That weight will probably be the determining factor as to whether you would want to venture forward if you are trying to stay within the numbers of your Expi.

I suspect that 7400 lbs. for the Jayco you have in mind is the dry wt.

There'll be many more answers to follow.

Hello I am new to this forum & have a question. I own a 2008 Ford Expedition EL w/ a listed tow rating of 8750 (HD Tow Package) . I have a bead on a 1997 Jayco. It is 31 feet long & weighs 7400lbs. Is that too much for this truck? Also plan to get a to get a Reese torsion bar hitch w/ anti sway bar.

So did we scare off the OP?

Both our answers are correct since the Gross Combined Weight Rating GCWR of the Acadia is 10,450 lbs and the actual weight of my AWD Acadia is 5062 lbs, the remaining allowance for extra weight is 5388 lbs. Once you fill up the gas tank and add the 150 lbs for the driver that is allowed without calculations (as per owners manual the payload accounts for that 150 lbs already)you have approximately 5200 lbs available to split between trailer weight and cargo / passengers.

Just to show my calculations:
My Acadia does indeed list the GVWR as 6459lbs as you stated, and lists maximum payload as 1397 lbs.

GVWR of 6459 lbs minus 1397 lbs payload equals 5062 lbs total weight of the Acadia with all options and battery installed.

Take the GCWR of 10,450 lbs and minus the GVWR of 6459 lbs leaves a total of 3991 lbs of towing capacity if my Acadia is fully loaded.

Take the GCWR of 10,450 lbs and minus the Acadia weight of 5062 lbs leaves a total of 5388 lbs of towing capcity if my Acadia is completely empty and without ant fuel LOL

So as I've already mentioned, any weight you put into the Acadia will decrease the maximum towing rating. It is that low GCWR of 10,450 lbs that really limits the Acadias ability to tow a travel trailer.

I see where you're coming from now. The way it was worded made it sound like you thought the GVWR was 5200lbs and that was all the Acadia could weigh.

camp-n-family wrote:

Acadia towing rating is 5200lbs, but I didn't realize that the 5200lbs is the total extra weight the Acadia is rated to handle (passengers, cargo, fuel, and trailer total must not exceed 5200lbs )

I think you're confusing the Acadia's tow rating with its GVWR. The max weight of trailer it can tow is 5200lbs, assuming you can remain within all other ratings (payload, axle, tire etc). That number is reduced pound for pound with weight added to the vehicle. The GVWR, or max weight the vehicle with passengers, cargo, fuel and tongue weight should not exceed, is 6411 for the FWD model and 6459 for the AWD. Curb weights are around 4600-4800lbs giving you a payload of around 1600lbs.

Both our answers are correct since the Gross Combined Weight Rating GCWR of the Acadia is 10,450 lbs and the actual weight of my AWD Acadia is 5062 lbs, the remaining allowance for extra weight is 5388 lbs. Once you fill up the gas tank and add the 150 lbs for the driver that is allowed without calculations (as per owners manual the payload accounts for that 150 lbs already)you have approximately 5200 lbs available to split between trailer weight and cargo / passengers.

Just to show my calculations:
My Acadia does indeed list the GVWR as 6459lbs as you stated, and lists maximum payload as 1397 lbs.

GVWR of 6459 lbs minus 1397 lbs payload equals 5062 lbs total weight of the Acadia with all options and battery installed.

Take the GCWR of 10,450 lbs and minus the GVWR of 6459 lbs leaves a total of 3991 lbs of towing capacity if my Acadia is fully loaded.

Take the GCWR of 10,450 lbs and minus the Acadia weight of 5062 lbs leaves a total of 5388 lbs of towing capcity if my Acadia is completely empty and without ant fuel LOL

So as I've already mentioned, any weight you put into the Acadia will decrease the maximum towing rating. It is that low GCWR of 10,450 lbs that really limits the Acadias ability to tow a travel trailer.

Acadia towing rating is 5200lbs, but I didn't realize that the 5200lbs is the total extra weight the Acadia is rated to handle (passengers, cargo, fuel, and trailer total must not exceed 5200lbs )

I think you're confusing the Acadia's tow rating with its GVWR. The max weight of trailer it can tow is 5200lbs, assuming you can remain within all other ratings (payload, axle, tire etc). That number is reduced pound for pound with weight added to the vehicle. The GVWR, or max weight the vehicle with passengers, cargo, fuel and tongue weight should not exceed, is 6411 for the FWD model and 6459 for the AWD. Curb weights are around 4600-4800lbs giving you a payload of around 1600lbs.

bid_time wrote:

Terryallan wrote:

....I didn't know that there were people on here that could not understand giving examples. I did not think I had to spell it out, and name EVERY SUV that is in the same category. So when I say LESS than. I mean exactly that.

I am guessing that if there are several of us who have been on here for years and don't know what you mean by "LESS THAN", than I'm guessing that there are a whole lot of others. The fact of the matter is, if the SUV has the proper ratings, than it can do the job, no examples required.

Less than. Meaning not as capable as, or lower than. You know like we all should have learned in school. 10 is greater than, or less than 20? Which is it? Of course 10 is Less than 20. Example. A Expedition is LESS capable THAN a Excursion. Get it?

And yes of course a SUV hooked to a TT that is within it's limits, can tow it fine. I have towed all over with a Expedition. The TT was well in the ratings. But it was NOT in the ratings of a Escape. So the Escape is Less capable than a Expedition. Can it tow a TT, Yes it can. Can it tow the same TT as the Expe. No. It must tow a much smaller TT.
I really can't make this any more simple.

Terryallan wrote:

....I didn't know that there were people on here that could not understand giving examples. I did not think I had to spell it out, and name EVERY SUV that is in the same category. So when I say LESS than. I mean exactly that.

I am guessing that if there are several of us who have been on here for years and don't know what you mean by "LESS THAN", than I'm guessing that there are a whole lot of others. The fact of the matter is, if the SUV has the proper ratings, than it can do the job, no examples required.