Toyota Diesel ---- Will They Ever?

I drove a Toyota Hi Lux diesel while in Panama, and it was nice, and saw some diesel Landcruisers too.

Yeah, everyone I see tries to buy my Duramax 06; they would get the equivalent of a new truck for, maybe, $8000, so I can see why. Just keep going with it, I guess; let the grandkids fight over who gets it someday.

Jim-Linda wrote:

Lessmore wrote:
I know it's a Toyota owned, commercial truck company, not designed to be a Cadillac on a truck frame, but has anyone seen a Hino truck pulling an RV ?

Looked at the Hino 195DC on the Hino website. It has a ...dual cab, 4 doors seating for 5-6. Diesel 210 hp, 440 ft. lbs torque, 6 speed Aisin automatic. Warranty is tremendous for powertrain.

I recall in the deep and dark recesses of my mind that Nissan used to have a similar commercial truck...that I remember was outfitted to pull a large RV trailer. This would be about 20 years ago.

Wonder if there is potential for Hino to enter the RV towing market ? Some may feel 210 hp/ 440 ft. lbs of torque maybe inadequate.

You are probably thinking about the UD1800. We had one in '94 after our Ford 7.3, E40D crapped a tranny in the middle of Yellowstone. The truck was a cabover, extended cab, 6 speed manual with the best exhaust brake I have seen. Terrible ride even with air rear added. It served us until I retired in '96 when DW said with a straight face, "if you think i'm going to row the shifter from now on, you are out of your mind.
That put us in a FL60 w/Allison that we still have today.

Jim

These are basically old delivery trucks, that would have been slow pulling a 5th Wheeler. Lot of modern Japanese / European vehicles would do a vastly better job, but they are not available in the US

transferred wrote:
9 years ago Toyota came out with a 282bhp and 480lb/ft 4.5L V8 turbodiesel in foreign markets for the Land Cruiser 200 series. Shame it never made it over here.

Very, very common in Australia. The L70 and the SUV Landcruiser have it

DownTheAvenue wrote:
Toyota manufactures and sells diesels in many markets throughout the world. In the United States, emissions standards is usually the biggest obstacle to bring a diesel to market.

Would be not a problem if the US market was more diesel friendly. US standards are different not stricter. I think Toyota does not have a Euro 6 compliant engine.Europe is not a big market for them as it is dominated by the local companies

Why are you babying an 06 Duramax. Last longer running hell out of them. If you haven't reached 1/2 million miles keep going. We were in Chile before Christmas and all there are is Toyota and even Ford Ranger diesels. It's the US Regs Toyota doesn't want to meet.

What's Orange and sleeps six? A CALTRANS Truck.

Lessmore wrote:
I know it's a Toyota owned, commercial truck company, not designed to be a Cadillac on a truck frame, but has anyone seen a Hino truck pulling an RV ?

Looked at the Hino 195DC on the Hino website. It has a ...dual cab, 4 doors seating for 5-6. Diesel 210 hp, 440 ft. lbs torque, 6 speed Aisin automatic. Warranty is tremendous for powertrain.

I recall in the deep and dark recesses of my mind that Nissan used to have a similar commercial truck...that I remember was outfitted to pull a large RV trailer. This would be about 20 years ago.

Wonder if there is potential for Hino to enter the RV towing market ? Some may feel 210 hp/ 440 ft. lbs of torque maybe inadequate.

20 years ago, 210/440 was considered industry standard for towing power but with modern diesel pickups running twice those numbers there is really no practical reason to use a truck like the Hino. They can handle heavy pin weights, but pulling a fifth wheel too heavy for a modern dually would slow a Hino or similar truck down to a snails pace in the hills.

9 years ago Toyota came out with a 282bhp and 480lb/ft 4.5L V8 turbodiesel in foreign markets for the Land Cruiser 200 series. Shame it never made it over here.

Jim-Linda wrote:

Lessmore wrote:
I know it's a Toyota owned, commercial truck company, not designed to be a Cadillac on a truck frame, but has anyone seen a Hino truck pulling an RV ?

Looked at the Hino 195DC on the Hino website. It has a ...dual cab, 4 doors seating for 5-6. Diesel 210 hp, 440 ft. lbs torque, 6 speed Aisin automatic. Warranty is tremendous for powertrain.

I recall in the deep and dark recesses of my mind that Nissan used to have a similar commercial truck...that I remember was outfitted to pull a large RV trailer. This would be about 20 years ago.

Wonder if there is potential for Hino to enter the RV towing market ? Some may feel 210 hp/ 440 ft. lbs of torque maybe inadequate.

You are probably thinking about the UD1800. We had one in '94 after our Ford 7.3, E40D crapped a tranny in the middle of Yellowstone. The truck was a cabover, extended cab, 6 speed manual with the best exhaust brake I have seen. Terrible ride even with air rear added. It served us until I retired in '96 when DW said with a straight face, "if you think i'm going to row the shifter from now on, you are out of your mind.
That put us in a FL60 w/Allison that we still have today.

Jim

That's the Nissan truck that I was thinking of. By the sounds of it, it was quite commercial and heavy duty...going by the ride you've described. Shifting a standard transmission in a commercial truck is not everybody's cup of tea, nowadays there are probably more automatic options. I drove some commercial trucks back in the '70's and I must admit, shifting a manual transmission, day in...day out...the novelty wore out rather quickly for me. :B

I think, however your Freightliner 60 with the Allison automatic must be a tremendous tow vehicle. Sounds like an excellent choice, more than able to handle large RV's.

I do sometimes wonder why more RVers who have large, heavy RV's don't consider something like your FL60.

1320Fastback wrote:
Toyota made a 4cyl diesel and there were some sold in early 90s pickups.

While not powerful by modern standards they would be great in the old Dolphin motorhomes or other mini pickup used for light towing.

Actually they imported them to the US from 1980 or 1981 through 1986. The early ones were a 2.2L diesel and from '84 through mid '86 they were a 2.4 IDI diesel. Some of the later ones were N/A and some were turbo'd. I have an '84, recently retired due to frame rot, but I'm keeping the engine for a future project. I've been running 17-20 lbs of intercooled boost through it for almost 2 decades. Great little engine, runs very well, and fairly bullet proof. Overseas Toyota still sells essentially the same 2.4L engine with more modern electronics attached to it. I much prefer the very simple, "one wire" operation of my engine. So long as the fuel cut solenoid is energized, it will run.

BTW, this is the same engine and truck that Top Gear tired to "kill" across a number of episodes a few years back. Pic below was taken as we were putting away this truck and a trailer for long term storage in a shipping container. Had to find a way to make everything fit.



My other Toy is a 3.9L Isuzu powered 80 Series Landcruiser.



Adam