Toyota Diesel ---- Will They Ever?

colliehauler wrote:

RSD559 wrote:
A little off topic, but related. It may become even pricier to own and use a diesel in California if it's road improvement tax goes through. I believe they will be hitting both registration and fuel taxes for diesel vehicles.

How does California collect road tax on electric cars or do they get a free ride?

Up until now they have been getting a free ride, that's going to change with the new proposed tax structure, electric and hybrid vehicles will pay an additional surcharge on their registration fees annually.

Lessmore wrote:
I know it's a Toyota owned, commercial truck company, not designed to be a Cadillac on a truck frame, but has anyone seen a Hino truck pulling an RV ?

Looked at the Hino 195DC on the Hino website. It has a ...dual cab, 4 doors seating for 5-6. Diesel 210 hp, 440 ft. lbs torque, 6 speed Aisin automatic. Warranty is tremendous for powertrain.

I recall in the deep and dark recesses of my mind that Nissan used to have a similar commercial truck...that I remember was outfitted to pull a large RV trailer. This would be about 20 years ago.

Wonder if there is potential for Hino to enter the RV towing market ? Some may feel 210 hp/ 440 ft. lbs of torque maybe inadequate.

You are probably thinking about the UD1800. We had one in '94 after our Ford 7.3, E40D crapped a tranny in the middle of Yellowstone. The truck was a cabover, extended cab, 6 speed manual with the best exhaust brake I have seen. Terrible ride even with air rear added. It served us until I retired in '96 when DW said with a straight face, "if you think i'm going to row the shifter from now on, you are out of your mind.
That put us in a FL60 w/Allison that we still have today.

Jim

Most of these trucks were designed for local service. I think they are geared down and fatiguing if you were to drive one on the highways all day. Did you see the standard 30 gallon fuel tank? I'm sure it would pull the mountains in the slow lane.

I know it's a Toyota owned, commercial truck company, not designed to be a Cadillac on a truck frame, but has anyone seen a Hino truck pulling an RV ?

Looked at the Hino 195DC on the Hino website. It has a ...dual cab, 4 doors seating for 5-6. Diesel 210 hp, 440 ft. lbs torque, 6 speed Aisin automatic. Warranty is tremendous for powertrain.

I recall in the deep and dark recesses of my mind that Nissan used to have a similar commercial truck...that I remember was outfitted to pull a large RV trailer. This would be about 20 years ago.

Wonder if there is potential for Hino to enter the RV towing market ? Some may feel 210 hp/ 440 ft. lbs of torque maybe inadequate.

RSD559 wrote:
A little off topic, but related. It may become even pricier to own and use a diesel in California if it's road improvement tax goes through. I believe they will be hitting both registration and fuel taxes for diesel vehicles.

How does California collect road tax on electric cars or do they get a free ride?

A little off topic, but related. It may become even pricier to own and use a diesel in California if it's road improvement tax goes through. I believe they will be hitting both registration and fuel taxes for diesel vehicles.

I doubt Toyota will be bringing a diesel from overseas other than its Hino powered ones in the COE's. The emission equipment is becoming too expensive to sell a vehicle optioned with a diesel when there is a gasoline engine available that can do the job.

I would like see more 4-5 liter diesels in Class 2 trucks and leave the largest ones for the Class 3 and larger models. My 6 liter diesel had more power than my Class 2b truck needed and I only chose it because the 7 liter gasser of that time would have been expensive to run and have a short range on a tank of gas.

The 3 liter diesels in Class 1 and 2a trucks seems to be a good combination, but I could see a 4 liter being a better fit for those towing at the upper limits of this segment.

Son't hold your breath. The rest of the world loves Toyota diesels. Emissions standards may be the big hurdle, but it may be American bias.

I you have a 2006 Duramax, you already have a vehicle better than any Toyota and that is coming from a Ford man.

Toyota made a 4cyl diesel and there were some sold in early 90s pickups.

While not powerful by modern standards they would be great in the old Dolphin motorhomes or other mini pickup used for light towing.

I remember that Toyota was talking about putting the 5.0L Cummins in the Tundra and making a light 3/4 ton something like the Titan XD, but I believe the deal fell through. It would have been nice because I would much rather have a Toyota over a Nissan. Although the best truck I would have loved to see the 5.0L Cummins in is a Ram 2500 Power Wagon.