travel trailer tires
its time for new tires for my pioneer t19. It now has 205-75 14 Iwas told to put 15 on it. what is the best tires for it
TNX Jim
TNX Jim
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mike-s wrote:
Mike... Give it up.Huntindog wrote:
Why should he? You're making claims, and the only thing you've said to back them up is "my tires haven't exploded." Oh, and some statements which indicate you don't understand thermodynamics, airflow, or the difference between tire scrubbing and tread squirm. Hint: There's no tire scrubbing on the highway, where speeds and heat are greatest, the most miles are spent, and a blowout is most likely.
When you make a claim that engineers state this..... You know you gotta back that up with sources.
Terry made a claim that I had never heard of... So I asked him to explain it. His explanation bordered on ridicuolous, so I called him on it. He then decided to state that engineers have stated his claim.
I have done some searchs and can find nothing to back that up.
So although I am willing to consider his position, he needs to provide sources for his claims in order to make them credible.
Terry doesn't seem to want to do this, so at this point, I don't consider his claims correct.
There are many advantages to a wide trax axle setup.... But lack of radiant tire heat isn't one of them as far as I can tell.... As a side note for others, there are some downsides to a wide trax setup as well, but that is a totally different discussion.JIMNLIN wrote:
At some point having too much tire on a trailer doesn't work out the best either.....such as the newby true story) with 3500 lb axles on his TT going with a 16" E at 3560 lbs capacity. No way this tire can be ran at max sidewall pressures to satisfy max air pressure requirements by the tire mfg. Extreme case but I see this a lot on TT forums on different websites.
Actual scaled axle load numbers can tell a trailer owner if his OEM tires have a 10-15 percent reserve capacity or the tires are close to max loads....or over loaded.
Assuming/estimating a particular trailer gross axle loads has lead to over and under tiring issues.
This thread is typical especially when the OP didn't give any particulars other than a 205/75-14 number which could be a ST or a P tire.....and who knows what load range he needs....or his trailer axle ratings......or his trailers gvwr. We can only guess/estimate and pick at others opinions. :B
True Story How? Posted on the Internet?- I have heard off heat transfer on dual installations, but not on tandem.
Have not seen a reply from OP! - At some point having too much tire on a trailer doesn't work out the best either.....such as the newby true story) with 3500 lb axles on his TT going with a 16" E at 3560 lbs capacity. No way this tire can be ran at max sidewall pressures to satisfy max air pressure requirements by the tire mfg. Extreme case but I see this a lot on TT forums on different websites.
Actual scaled axle load numbers can tell a trailer owner if his OEM tires have a 10-15 percent reserve capacity or the tires are close to max loads....or over loaded.
Assuming/estimating a particular trailer gross axle loads has lead to over and under tiring issues.
This thread is typical especially when the OP didn't give any particulars other than a 205/75-14 number which could be a ST or a P tire.....and who knows what load range he needs....or his trailer axle ratings......or his trailers gvwr. We can only guess/estimate and pick at others opinions. :B westend wrote:
Nothing happens. Tire and axle ratings are for static load. They already take into consideration the increases in dynamic load you describe. That's one reason you have to derate a passenger car tire if used on a trailer - trailers experience greater dynamic loads.
That might be all well and good but what happens when the tongue is unweighted by road surface and more weight is shifted to the tires? Or, in some handling situations where individual tire load increases?
Having said that, I strongly believe that more margins in the ratings will result in a longer trouble free service life. How many utility trailers are running around with 15 year old tires because they're almost never loaded near their rating? (and then you see them blown out on the side of the road after they are heavily loaded)LarryJM wrote:
I think increased load capacity has it's benefits. Some TT mfgs specify axle and tire load capacity subtracting the tongue load. This allows them to specify a smaller wheel and tire.
The only "REAL BENEFIT" might be to increase the actual load capacity of the trailer. While it might be controversial, I'm not convinced that having more "RESERVE CAPACITY" helps in preventing flats/blowouts or tire failures.
That might be all well and good but what happens when the tongue is unweighted by road surface and more weight is shifted to the tires? Or, in some handling situations where individual tire load increases? It may pay in tire durability to have a set of tires that can bear the whole weight of the trailer or even above.
Perhaps I'm way off-base with my thinking but I like the thought of having more tire on the rim than less.Huntindog wrote:
Why should he? You're making claims, and the only thing you've said to back them up is "my tires haven't exploded." Oh, and some statements which indicate you don't understand thermodynamics, airflow, or the difference between tire scrubbing and tread squirm. Hint: There's no tire scrubbing on the highway, where speeds and heat are greatest, the most miles are spent, and a blowout is most likely.
When you make a claim that engineers state this..... You know you gotta back that up with sources.Terryallan wrote:
Huntindog wrote:
Terryallan wrote:
Huntindog wrote:
Terryallan wrote:
I bet you read that in some marketing propaganda.Huntindog wrote:
Terryallan wrote:
Please explain why.
Remember. Tires run hotter the closer together they are.
Closer together they get radiant heat from each other. Farther apart. they get more air to cool. BTW that is also one of the selling points of the EZ track axles/ Spread axles you see on newer TTs. Tires run cooler, and trailers track better.
At least that is what I read
I can make a pretty strong case for just the opposite.
With a spread axle there WILL be more tire scrubbing whenever the TT is turning. Even slight turns such as on a highway . Tire scrubbing generates heat.
I seriously doubt that my tires which are at the minimum of 1" apart are getting much radiant heat from each other with a 65-75 MPH wind blowing over them.
Welcome to your opinion
At least my "opinion has some factual basis.
Been running my tires that close together for over 10 years in Phoenix AZ, and they haven't overheated yet. And if you really believe that tire scrub doesn't create heat ... and that tires spaced further apart don't scrub more than tires closer together...I got a bridge for sale.
At any rate, now you can say that you have read what I wrote, just as you repeat what someone else wrote
not something we gonna fight about. Not worth it. You have your opinion, and it's your right to have it. . I have what the engineers say, and I believe them. So you believe what you want. It's all good
When you make a claim that engineers state this..... You know you gotta back that up with sources.
I personally believe that the tire scrub heat buildup that I stated is so slight as to be unimportant.... But I also believe that your radiant heat theory is even less of a problem.
