Update--21 MayIn the photo you can see what is driving me crazy :)Before I levelled it all ( I thought) the whole thing was low on the left and to the front. So I drove up on a Rhino ramp front left and fixed all that according to the levels back on the camper.But now looking at it all from the front, it looks like the camper is leaning to the left, when in fact it is almost level, and the truck cab is leaning to the right.So the truck must be twisted between the cab and the box? Is that possible? If so is it bad for the truck? Or am I going blind?How should I be levelling it if that is bad for the truck? Use more Rhino ramps, set just so here and there, so it comes out right with the camper looking level vs the truck cab? What a PITA! Or does it matter?Thanks.

Not blind. TC isn’t level. Start with…is the ground level?

Yes, it’s possible for the frame to be twisted. It’s also possible that you need bed bushings or the TC is slightly heavier on side from water etc, so it is leaning.I think you could also use a variety of suspension adders like airbags, timbrens, supersprings, or sumosprings to level it.I’m assuming you have have verified that the air pressure is the same on both sides.

I could put the hydraulic jacks down and use them to level the camper ( for the fridge), but AFAIK you are not supposed to leave them pumped up and holding long term?So the truck really is twisted? It looks OK when both front tires are on the ground.

Is the driver side rear wheels up on blocks or just the front wheel?

Only tire up is the front left. Levels on back left corner of camper say the camper is almost level now with the truck front left up on the rampI suppose I could put ramps to both left sides to get it right sideways and then add more height to both fronts to get the front up. You can put planks down under the ramps to make them higher, so more planks under left front than right front in this case I guess. But does being twisted really hurt the truck is the question for the lazy guy. :(

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Lwiddis
Explorer II
May 20, 2022
Not blind. TC isn’t level. Start with…is the ground level?
jimh406
Explorer III
May 21, 2022
Yes, it’s possible for the frame to be twisted. It’s also possible that you need bed bushings or the TC is slightly heavier on side from water etc, so it is leaning.

I think you could also use a variety of suspension adders like airbags, timbrens, supersprings, or sumosprings to level it.

I’m assuming you have have verified that the air pressure is the same on both sides.
BFL13
Explorer II
May 21, 2022
I could put the hydraulic jacks down and use them to level the camper ( for the fridge), but AFAIK you are not supposed to leave them pumped up and holding long term?

So the truck really is twisted? It looks OK when both front tires are on the ground.
Geo_Boy
Explorer II
May 21, 2022
Is the driver side rear wheels up on blocks or just the front wheel?
BFL13
Explorer II
May 21, 2022
Only tire up is the front left. Levels on back left corner of camper say the camper is almost level now with the truck front left up on the ramp

I suppose I could put ramps to both left sides to get it right sideways and then add more height to both fronts to get the front up. You can put planks down under the ramps to make them higher, so more planks under left front than right front in this case I guess.

But does being twisted really hurt the truck is the question for the lazy guy. :(
Grit_dog
Navigator
May 21, 2022
Ok, so you’re aware it’s twisted because you only ramped up the front wheel.
It won’t hurt anything, frames are designed to twist within their elastic range. That’s why truck beds are separate from the cab. So stuff like this or off roading doesn’t buckle sheet metal.
Personally, I’d wouldn’t leave it like that indefinitely. Not that I really think it would harm anything, but stress over time does affect steel differently than short duration. It’s called plastic deformation or creep.
That said, there were many times with our TC, I’d just pull one front or back wheel onto blocks to level up “good enough” for a night or weekend and not an issue.
joerg68
Nomad III
May 21, 2022
Without knowing all the details, that looks like more twist than I would expect to see in this situation, with an older camper on a 2500 truck. When you move next time, get the rig on level ground and see how it all checks out.
It would not surprise me if there was an additional mechanical issue - e.g. a broken spring, or a bed mount or cab mount rusted out or broken.
Frame damage could also cause this, but I think that is unlikely. But then I don't know what the truck has been through during its lifetime.
notsobigjoe
Nomad III
May 21, 2022
That's how mine looks every time I go camping. The truck is run up on blocks and leveled the best it will be and the camper is lifted off the truck and leveled separately. Once the camper is as level as it will ever be I lower it a little bit to put some of the weight back in the truck bed. I wish I had a pic but it looks just like that and it is no big deal. Literally decades of doing it just like that with three different trucks. Good luck, Joe
valhalla360
Navigator
May 21, 2022
With just the drivers front tire up on a ramp, it might be nothing more than the springs on that tire being compressed making it look funny.

Get the camper off and take a look when it's on level ground with no ramps under it.
JRscooby
Explorer II
May 21, 2022
Before you started to level did the whole rig lean to left? If so I would put ramp under left rear to level. Because that lifts the axle with most weight it would put less twist in frame to get level.

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