Understanding GVWR and payload..

From the 2019 Ford brochure:

Cargo Weight Rating shown in chart is maximum
allowable, assuming weight of a base vehicle with
required camper option content and a 150-lb.
passenger at each available seating position

From page 9: 2019 Ford Brochure
This information is published in the "Ford Super Duty Pickup Truck Trailer Towing Selector" guide - as it has every year for over a decade.

It means that the cargo (payload) rating includes 150-pounds(68.04 kilos) in each seat.
In practical terms, this means that you can add 150 pounds of payload for each person that you remove from a seat.

The way it works is this:
Ford assumes that each seat will be occupied with a person weighing on average of 150 pounds.
If you were to remove everyone except the driver, you would gain payload (150 pounds for each person removed).
If you were to remove the AC unit, you would gain payload rating.
If you were to remove the rear tailgate, you would gain payload.
If you were to remove the nerf bars, you would gain payload.
If you were to remove the front drive shaft (from 4-wheel drive) you would gain payload.
ETC, etc, etc.

If you ADD an extra spring, you would lose payload rating.
If you ADD bump stops, you lose payload.
If you ADD SuperSprings, you lose payload.
If you ADD a bigger Sway bar, you lose payload.

Anything added to the vehicle will reduce it's payload rating.

Weight limits can be broken down in to two categories: Regulatory and Engineering. You can choose to exceed under first one and possibly be fined if your actual vehicle weight is over your registered weight. If you exceed the second one, you will have accelerated wear and at some point failure.

If you load a vehicle in such a way that it will adversely affect its handling, you can be liable in an accident but it does not matter if you are within or over either of these limits. The burden of proof would have to show that your loading contributed to your lack of control.

Grit dog wrote:
I think they should take all the payload stickers off trucks and make people figger it out.

Would force the interwebs discussions in an interesting direction anyways!

How would it be different than it is now?

The payload number is the number given fresh out of the factory with only the factory installed components..So you still have to weigh the truck as is, empty, before weighing it with the TC on to get the actual payload number for that truck..

So many frequent posters forget that if your payload is 5000# and you put two 200# people in it and a 100# dog,your payload just dropped to 4500#..

Then it's simple math...Truck weight as weighed prior to loading TC minus GVWR equals available payload at that time..

I think they should take all the payload stickers off trucks and make people figger it out.

Would force the interwebs discussions in an interesting direction anyways!

SidecarFlip wrote:

zcookiemonstar wrote:

Old-Biscuit wrote:
Except for 150# driver and full fuel tank EVERYTHING added to truck cab, bed, bumper etc reduces the MFGs stated payload which is based on MFGs GVWR minus the curb weight of vehicle
Yellow sticker states CCC for the vehicle as equipped from factory so dealer added accessories reduce that sticker CCC number


Course MFGs GVWR and the payload based on that GVWR are arbitrary numbers used for Warranty issues, CLASS of vehicle and Registration Fees.
Actual real world payload....Axle ratings/Tire Max Load ratings






Popcorn on stove !!!

150# driver? You would have to cut me in half!

Are you telling us you are a whale? better make it diet popcorn.:B

THANKS

4600 # payload means the absolute maximum you can put on the truck, assuming a perfect side to side and front to back balance, so that none of the capacities would be overloaded. Dropping a camper that weighs more behind the rear wheels than ahead of the rear wheels means your rear axle is overloaded. Carrying a load of steel that sticks out over the front means your front axle is overloaded. Everything needs to be considered individually as it's never just perfect.

Never consider being over capacity with a one ton truck and a 2300 pound fully loaded camper. Overloads don't even touch the hangers.

zcookiemonstar wrote:

Old-Biscuit wrote:
Except for 150# driver and full fuel tank EVERYTHING added to truck cab, bed, bumper etc reduces the MFGs stated payload which is based on MFGs GVWR minus the curb weight of vehicle
Yellow sticker states CCC for the vehicle as equipped from factory so dealer added accessories reduce that sticker CCC number


Course MFGs GVWR and the payload based on that GVWR are arbitrary numbers used for Warranty issues, CLASS of vehicle and Registration Fees.
Actual real world payload....Axle ratings/Tire Max Load ratings






Popcorn on stove !!!

150# driver? You would have to cut me in half!

Are you telling us you are a whale? better make it diet popcorn.:B

jaycocreek wrote:
There have been a ton of post lately about how much can my truck carry or will my truck haul this..

If by lately you mean the last 30+ years I agree.

Old-Biscuit wrote:
Except for 150# driver and full fuel tank EVERYTHING added to truck cab, bed, bumper etc reduces the MFGs stated payload which is based on MFGs GVWR minus the curb weight of vehicle
Yellow sticker states CCC for the vehicle as equipped from factory so dealer added accessories reduce that sticker CCC number


Course MFGs GVWR and the payload based on that GVWR are arbitrary numbers used for Warranty issues, CLASS of vehicle and Registration Fees.
Actual real world payload....Axle ratings/Tire Max Load ratings




Popcorn on stove !!!

150# driver? You would have to cut me in half!