wilber1 wrote:
Non Tesla EV’s like Nissan Leafs, Chevy Bolts, Jaguar, Porsche etc will probably never have access to the Supercharger network as they haven’t paid a dime into it. It is a private network.
How much has Tesla paid into anyone else's network?
You mean into their competitors fast charge networks? None that I know of. At least two of them are now adding Tesla plugs so TESLA owners don’t have to use the adapter. It essentially adds just a third “handle” to the pump. EVgo is doing this now. Smart move as it opens them up to the biggest EV market which of course are Tesla’s. They are starting to more aggressively target the Tesla market although Chademo charging at an EVGO station is considerably slower than a Supercharger. Sometimes it is extremely handy for the Tesla owner though. I can't imagine any reason why TESLA would pay them anything though.
Tesla has donated a ton of J1772 level two locations all over the world though. Quite often you’ll see this in hotels etc. There will be 4 chargers. Two Tesla and two non Tesla j1772. All 4 were given to the hotel by Tesla though. The hotel has to pay for install and is responsible for maintenance. They are free to use so no revenue stream to follow. Tesla uses the J-772 format but is physically a different connecter.
Below is a picture of the J1772 plug on top and Tesla plug on the bottom. They both use the international J1772 Format but Tesla’s plug is physically different as it uses the same plug for AC and DC charging where everybody else uses a separate plug for DC fast charging. Namely CCS and CHADEMO.
There is an underground parking lot near us that has a good example of a Tesla paid for installation. 2 non Tesla and two Tesla Ac chargers. However, every Tesla comes with an adapter that allows the Tesla to use either. So in these cases there are technically 4 stations available for the Tesla and only two for non Tesla’s. Teslas can charge at up to 11.5 kw on level 2 while everybody maxes out at 7.7 KW with most charging at 6.6 kw. So even on AC level 2 charging Teslas are considerably faster.
Here is a shot of the J1772 handle with the adapter attached.
Technically non TESLA owners can use the Tesla level two AC chargers but they have to buy an adapter whereas Tesla supplies it for free.
Below is the exact opposite of the above. This is what a non Tesla owner would buy if they wanted to charge at a Tesla level 2 destination charger. As stated destination chargers are common at hotels, restaurants, malls etc. We had one for our Leaf. Handy
