VW Traton has made a bid for Navistar

ACZL wrote:
We've had 2 VW's in past 7 years. 1st one was a a Passat diesel and 2nd is another Passat 4 cyl turbo. Loved the diesel and too bad it was part of VW's scandal, but I really tip my hat to whoever developed the software to allow it to confuse emissions tests. That being said, was it right, no, but still have to hand it to someone. That car got great MPG's, torquey and no problems. That was until 3 months before VW bought it back. It developed a water leak and I never bothered to get it fixed knowing VW was buying it. Now have their 4 cal turbo and while not as torquey as the diesel, does get good MPG's and roomy.

In regards to Daimler/Freightliner, I cannot say they are building the cheapest trucks as all the big semi companies are suffering from the same thing as the big 3 pick-up companies......DEF systems. Have spoken to many and that's the biggest gripe. Reason you may hear/see more Freightliners w/ problems is cuz you see the most of them on the road. Many years ago. International was #1 in pretty much all markets. Freightliner came along with a goal to knock IH off it's #1 perch in same categories. Ford's 6.0 PSD got a lousy rap, but look at how many they sold as well. So while you may see more in way of Freightliner's broke down, they like the RV industry, get/use same vendors for products. and most if not all breakdowns are DEF related.

Yes IH has had a lousy past 10-15 years or so, partly their fault, partly others. It's the others that took advantage and ran w/ it and don't see how they can be to blame. Personally, I wouldn't rush to buy/drive a IH truck, but if that's what my company chooses to buy, then that's what I have to drive. How many of us have said we wouldn't but a Ram, Ford or GM cuz of either current problems or past history? Yet others continue to do so. Luck of the draw. Harley-Davidson, tho a US bike, are they better than bikes from across the pond? Paying for a name./ Same can be said w/ John Deere. Pick your poison.

Correction: VW the car company is not buying Navistar. Scania and MAN have as much to do with VW, as Ducati the Motorbike Company they own. Driver of this purchase is Scania with MAN s a Partner, funding is coming from them. VW Corporation sits on the board of both Companies, but outside of that has nothing to do with the Companies. Scania is working with Cummins and Isuzu on diesel technology. They designed the Maxxxforce Engine for Navistar that is still being used by them