Walmart no longer an option?

westernrvparkowner wrote:

C-172-AV8R wrote:
Rv parks complain to city council that they are losing money. City council capitulates and viola. New signs. Don't blame Walmart they just have to follow the law. Blame the Rv parks. I remember that happened in Prince George B.C so everyone going to Alaska told council they didn't need to stop in P.G. Well all the fuel stations and restaurants complained so they rescinded the ban. Power to the $$$ for sure.

Yep, RV park owners easily can out spend and out maneuver Walmart. The fact that Walmart really couldn't care less one way or the other is the only reason such ordinances ever pass.

You wouldn't be a bit biased now, would you?

Have you ever talked to the store managers of local Walmarts? I know for a fact some of them do care and some of them were really peeved when local authorities passed ordinances banning overnight RV parking at the urging of commercial RV park owners. Not just Walmart, but businesses like some Cabelas stores had to warn customers about an overnight parking ban.

Our local Wal-Mart is also posted, no RV overnight parking. Big Rigs, ok. RV, Nada. Same with the Lowes across the street.

People ruin it for themselves.

jfkmk wrote:

C-172-AV8R wrote:
Rv parks complain to city council that they are losing money. City council capitulates and viola. New signs. Don't blame Walmart they just have to follow the law. Blame the Rv parks. I remember that happened in Prince George B.C so everyone going to Alaska told council they didn't need to stop in P.G. Well all the fuel stations and restaurants complained so they rescinded the ban. Power to the $$$ for sure.

Really? EVERYONE going to Alaska thought to contact the city council to tell them they no longer had to stop in PG because they couldn't overnight in WalMart?? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?
The local Wallyworld by me bans overnight parking. There's not a cg close enough to care. Go figure!

Okay then if you do a search ( Search posts over one year old) Prince George Parking Ban 05/30/06 on this forum let me know how ridiculous it really was. Apology not needed.

SidecarFlip wrote:
Have the same issue on my property in Northern Michigan. It's accessable only by seasonal road (very disbursed camping) but people come in on the seasonal road and drive into the (clearly posted private property no trespassing) part and party, do drugs (I suppose) and leave their trash for us to clean up. Happens all the time. People are their own worst enemy. Every time I go up, I haul out others trash. I pay a lot of RE taxes on the land that others abuse.

Guess that's why I always carry a sidearm up there.....

Yes, the property taxes are full bang on a second property and you cant vote but the dirt bag can and it's always for more.

Local Walmart was a nightmare........piss bottles, trash, derelict rigs parked for days.
Had to run the gauntlet of panhandlers, ne'er-do-wells to get from parking lot to store entrance.

Walmart employees tried to keep parking lot picked up but it was a loosing game.

Family of scum bags got into a hassle with employees...cops were called.
Cops responded.scum bags opened fire on them. Cops shot/killed one. Arrested the rest.

Town council passed ordinance next day.....signs posted by end of week

Walmart parking lot is NOW a clean, non-hassle place that one doesn't feel threatened in anymore.

Kudos to the town council for swift action




Reported a 'stealth' camper in neighborhood last week.......sheriffs responded.
Cuffed/stuffed and had crappy rundown rig towed

YEAH!!!!

Have the same issue on my property in Northern Michigan. It's accessable only by seasonal road (very disbursed camping) but people come in on the seasonal road and drive into the (clearly posted private property no trespassing) part and party, do drugs (I suppose) and leave their trash for us to clean up. Happens all the time. People are their own worst enemy. Every time I go up, I haul out others trash. I pay a lot of RE taxes on the land that others abuse.

Guess that's why I always carry a sidearm up there.....

C-172-AV8R wrote:

TomG2 wrote:
My local Walmart told me that they do not even own or control the parking lot directly. That is why they allow overnight trucks but not RV's. The abuse that I see when traveling convinces me that it is just a matter of time before other lots become unavailable. Long term parking, slides out, trash, all contribute to our image and it is not a pretty one.

Roger That......Sad the way some behave now....Lack of Character.

These are not the people who traditionally used Walmart or places like the slabs. From what I have seen in my travels this is what I would describe as the next layer of homeless people who have enough resources to be mobile. This isn't a criticism of them and they all are not bad people. They range from good people with bad luck to crack and meth heads. They can talk low inflation or a great stock market all they want but life and housing affordability and good paying jobs in the USA are not working out well for everyone.


After dirt biking in Northern Mich for 55 years and visiting again this summer I have now started running across dispersed camping areas that are completely trashed. A DNR officer stopped me when I rode back to the river where this FW has been for months.



DNR said he was looking for the owner. I have been in there a few times in the last month and people are there so the DNR gave up or something. They are using the bushes along the river as their toilet. I didn't see a blue tote anywhere and the rig is packed with junk under it so it doesn't move.

A few miles downstream from there I noticed iirc a van and a car parked at this place along with a tent by the river a week or more ago. I have been by there a couple times and they are gone.











At least they used a bucket but it would be nice if they had taken it with them



This just may be a little over kill for hanging something on a tree, not that you are allowed to.



I ran into a young couple this summer in the same area that flagged me down to beg for money. They were broke down in the woods with a blah blah blah story. I told them I dont carry my wallet while dirt riding but I'd be back shortly. Last summer I pulled a ratty old C out of a mud hole in the same area because I ride there all the time. These are the people who are ruining it for the rest of us but isn't that how it always goes? I'd take my trailer over there and clean it up but on second thought I hope they close it. RV'ers cant use it so urinate on them and force them into the state park. I usually ride with a trash bag and pick stuff up and dump it at the DNR office but this is too much.

If you want to see the ultimate dirt bag sheet hole drive through the slabs, NO I didn't say camp there, I said drive through. You will see more and more Walmart closing over nighting then it will move to the next place like Home Depot or whatever.

There are people on Youtube who push books and encourage others to join the carefree mobile lifestyle and Disability is probably how a good number of them are now doing it.

Local police undercover guy tells me that my neighborhood WM parking lot is the busiest place in town for drug sales. Not the prescription type.

I haven't run into it but only stay once a year in Benton Ky.

donn0128 wrote:
Good for Walmart. In Bend the parking lot looks like a druggie parking lot 24/7. Im almost scared to even stop any more.

We drove past there on the way to a CG and were shocked at all the RVs in the lot. Went to the Walmart to do some shopping and found that all the RVs were on display from a local dealer. Weren't many regular RV-ers there doing an overnight or two that we could see. Doesn't seem quite right to open up a large section of their lot for a dealer.