Ward's Best Engines 2014

Guys I think the bell rang, y'all need to go back to class now!

John_G wrote:
In some cases this isn't the first year they've made the list. 5th year in a row that the Audi 3.0L TFSI has made the list and the Honda engine has also made the list 5 times (not consecutively)...

:h
Seems like a questionable list to me... How can an engine be the best one year, then not the best, then the best again? What changed about the engine during the year when it wasn't the best, that made it no good that year?

l001952119 wrote:

ib516 wrote:
Tow vehicle engines are in bold...

Audi S5 3.0-liter TFSI supercharged DOHC V-6
BMW 535d 3.0-liter turbo-diesel DOHC inIine-six-cylinder
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 6.2-liter OHV V-8 (same engine as Chevy Silverado 1500)
Chevrolet Cruze 2.0-liter turbo-diesel DOHC inline-four-cylinder
Fiat 500e 83-kilowatt electric motor
Ford Fiesta 1.0-liter turbocharged DOHC inline-three-cylinder
Honda Accord 3.5-liter SOHC V-6
Porsche Cayman 2.7-liter DOHC H-6 boxer
Ram 1500 3.0-liter turbo-diesel DOHC V-6
Volkswagen Jetta 1.8-liter turbocharged DOHC inline-four-cylinder

On the 3.0L Diesel in the RAM 1500, they commented:

"The 3.0L V-6, sourced from Fiat-owned VM Motori in Italy for the Ram 1500, is the first modern light-duty diesel engine for a fullsize pickup. The engine also appears in the new Jeep Grand Cherokee SUV.

Ideally mated with a smooth-shifting 8-speed automatic transmission, the 3.0L turbodiesel goes about its business with little effort or humdrum and propels the 6,000-lb. (2,722-kg) truck with ease.

Some WardsAuto editors achieved better than 24 mpg (9.8 L/100 km) in mixed driving, which is remarkable in a truck this large. Count on the Ram 1500 to deliver even better fuel economy during steady highway driving. The EPA numbers are not yet available for the Ram diesel."

Thank you for the information. I ordered a 6.2 engine in a 1500 Silverado. It is scheduled for assembly this Monday. Probably a real gas guzzler (not yet rated) but I will make it up the hill! Also ordered the Max Trailering package with a tow rating of 12,000 pounds!

Worry not, its no gas guzzler, my neighbor just got back from Colorado where he bought a 2014 CC 4X4 6.2 and got 21 mpg coming back to Idaho. Loves the pickup.

45Ricochet wrote:
See that's the difference Troy, own up to misstatement's or the marketing team and move on. Not sure blue oval can do that, ahh I'll leave out the 6.0 law suit material. What don't you understand about ad's anyway :H It is always bias so set back in your easy chair and enjoy that Ram or Chevy ad running during that Texan game. Like you weren't steamed enough already with a 2 win season :R
Dream job to inherent since they should be like .500 at least. And no you can't have Pete :B

NC asked where did IT get his information so I simply posted a possible source as RAM was touting end of year release. No big deal :B

Anyways I leave out the class actions on the 6.7 Cummins as well since it's not pertinent to this thread. :W

See that's the difference Troy, own up to misstatement's or the marketing team and move on. Not sure blue oval can do that, ahh I'll leave out the 6.0 law suit material. What don't you understand about ad's anyway :H It is always bias so set back in your easy chair and enjoy that Ram or Chevy ad running during that Texan game. Like you weren't steamed enough already with a 2 win season :R
Dream job to inherent since they should be like .500 at least. And no you can't have Pete :B

FishOneOne wrote:
RAM chief engineer reported in this video that the diesel (3.0 motori ) will be available late this year. Not surprised this guy was wrong since this is the same guy who was down playing def equipment trucks as little as two years ago.

Released about the same time as the Promaster diesel.

NC Hauler wrote:

itguy08 wrote:

bmanning wrote:

All you say is true, yet I still think it's going to sell very well and carve out a good chunk of the half-ton market.

I could be wrong, time will tell.

It will be interesting but just got back from lunch and a local station had these prices:

Reg $3.45
Mid $3.55
Prem $3.75
Diesel $3.89

So $0.44 more than regular per gallon. Or 12% more than Regular. That's a lot of diesel you have to buy to make it worthwhile, and that doesn't count the higher purchase price and higher maintenance.

It will be interesting when they release the EPA #'s so we can compare like for like. I still think Ram/Chrysler is not getting the #'s they want so are trying to figure out how to get it there. As well as they have pushed this thing back a bunch of times since it was announced. It was supposed to be here in Fall 2013, then EOY 2013, and now it's spring 2014?!?!?!?!

OK, we understand your agenda....anti diesel, pro gas.....almost every post you make, it's perfectly clear where you stand....We get it...BUT, like you, it's a choice one makes, and if one opt's to PAY for a diesel engine, all the negatives won't stop them from doing it. Just like you with a gasser....I never owned a diesel TO TOW WITH until 2003....as long as I'm towing in the mountains and towing heavy....I'll own a diesel, no matter the cost because, I can afford it...one should only purchase and maintain what they can afford, not particulary what they want....so happens a lot of us in here want and can afford and will purchase a diesel no matter how many negatives you post time after time after time...etc.......

I paid $3.73 last I filled up...you also forgot DEF cost, (about $2.65 a gallon, though right now, I'm averaging 1100-1350 mpg of DEF BUT, it's still a cost on newer diesels and I want to make sure you hit every base:).

Where did you read that the Ram 1500 with diesel would be here in the fall of 13??? Wow, you must have some kind of insider information.....Never heard that, but you being an "IT guy", you probably know more than most of us in here, at least that's the impression I get from you when I read any of your post

RAM chief engineer reported in this video that the diesel (3.0 motori :B) will be available late this year. Not surprised this guy was wrong since this is the same guy who was down playing def equipment trucks as little as two years ago. :R

bmanning wrote:
All you say is true, yet I still think it's going to sell very well and carve out a good chunk of the half-ton market.

I could be wrong, time will tell.

Agree.

Diesel is $3.43 a gallon here, but reg gas is only $2.80. I still think the new diesels 1/2 tons will sell. Particularly the Nissan if if comes out and has a good record.

itguy08 wrote:

bmanning wrote:

All you say is true, yet I still think it's going to sell very well and carve out a good chunk of the half-ton market.

I could be wrong, time will tell.

It will be interesting but just got back from lunch and a local station had these prices:

Reg $3.45
Mid $3.55
Prem $3.75
Diesel $3.89

So $0.44 more than regular per gallon. Or 12% more than Regular. That's a lot of diesel you have to buy to make it worthwhile, and that doesn't count the higher purchase price and higher maintenance.

It will be interesting when they release the EPA #'s so we can compare like for like. I still think Ram/Chrysler is not getting the #'s they want so are trying to figure out how to get it there. As well as they have pushed this thing back a bunch of times since it was announced. It was supposed to be here in Fall 2013, then EOY 2013, and now it's spring 2014?!?!?!?!

OK, we understand your agenda....anti diesel, pro gas.....almost every post you make, it's perfectly clear where you stand....We get it...BUT, like you, it's a choice one makes, and if one opt's to PAY for a diesel engine, all the negatives won't stop them from doing it. Just like you with a gasser....I never owned a diesel TO TOW WITH until 2003....as long as I'm towing in the mountains and towing heavy....I'll own a diesel, no matter the cost because, I can afford it...one should only purchase and maintain what they can afford, not particulary what they want....so happens a lot of us in here want and can afford and will purchase a diesel no matter how many negatives you post time after time after time...etc.......

I paid $3.73 last I filled up...you also forgot DEF cost, (about $2.65 a gallon, though right now, I'm averaging 1100-1350 mpg of DEF BUT, it's still a cost on newer diesels and I want to make sure you hit every base:).

Where did you read that the Ram 1500 with diesel would be here in the fall of 13??? Wow, you must have some kind of insider information.....Never heard that, but you being an "IT guy", you probably know more than most of us in here, at least that's the impression I get from you when I read any of your post