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Huntindog
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Nov 18, 2015

WARNING !! LOCKOUT DANGER

Last month we were on a deer hunt at the North Rim of the Grand Canyon.

One morning my wife decicded to forgo the morning hunt and sleep in.
I left the TT well before dawn, locking both locks on the door as I left..
Later that morning my wife was awoken by our dogs wanting to go out to potty. It was cold out, about 20 degrees, but she knew the dogs would do their buisiness quickly, so she was dressed in sweats, and slippers. After the first dog finished, she was shocked to find that the door had locked behind her!.. Evidently as my testing later revealed, if you use the key to lock the door from outside, then you MUST use a key to unlock it from outside! You can unlock the deadbolt only from inside with the lever,,, The latch will open but remain locked.
DW was panic'd until she tried the truck door, and found that I had forgotten to lock it. A spare set of TT keys were in it, and disaster was averted.

Upon returning home, I contacted FIC who made the lock and told her what had happened... She was very apolgetic and said that she would send me a new lock that should fix it.
What she sent were noew key cylinders, which did NOT change anything... I didn't think it would but I gave it a try just to be sure.
So I called FIC again... This time the lady referred me to her bosses email.
I sent the following to her on 11/12/15.

Hi Whitney.

A couple of weeks ago, my wife and I were on a hunting trip at the North Rim of the Grand Canyon.

One morning my wife decided to stay in bed rather than face the frigid wet conditions. As I left before dawn, I used my key to lock both locks on the TT door.

Later my wife was awoken by our dogs wanting to go out to potty. Wearing slippers and sweats, she took the first dog out, closing the door behind her. A minute later with the first dogs duty done, she discovered that she was locked out! She panic’d as she was not dressed to stay out in 20 degree temps for long. Fortunately when she tried the truck door, I hat forgotten to lock it, and there was a spare TT key in it.

When we returned home, I called your customer service and told the lady what happened. She sent us replacement lock cylinders in an attempt to fix the issue. It didn’t work.

I cannot believe that this is the way the lock should work.
When someone unlocks the door from the inside, then the latch should be unlocked making it impossible for one to get locked out.

I have often done as I did that morning... Locking the door behind me to keep my wife safe... This was just the first time she had went out after I left.


I have not recieved a response back.

I would like to know if other TT locks work the same way?

If this lock is operating as designed, I find that to be unacceptable.

48 Replies

  • Sam Spade wrote:
    allenm wrote:
    After that I kept a spare key hidden inside the outside furnace panel.


    This. Mine works slightly differently but still can lock you out easily. Unlocking mine from the inside leaves it unlocked.....but if you open the door and push the lock lever and shut the door;LOCKED.

    I keep my spare key in a slightly different location.
    I would be OK with your lock. You have to to do something to lock it... With my lock, I can accidently lock my wife out without her being aware.

    What lock do you have?
  • There are a few things that I find unacceptable about this.

    First was FICs original response. They acknowledged that it was a problem, and even sent out parts at no charge in a futile attempt to fix it.

    But now they are ignoring me.

    Then there is the issue of whether one belives that both locks should be able to be used as I have been...
    I believe that they should be. I can use both locks in my stick and bricks house this way, and it can be even more important in my TT.

    Phone service is a rarity where we camp. That means no 911 calls for help. So in the unlikely event that a bad guy attempts to break in, the few extra seconds that the second lock may slow him down will give my wife more time to prepare to defend herself.
  • allenm wrote:
    After that I kept a spare key hidden inside the outside furnace panel.


    This. Mine works slightly differently but still can lock you out easily. Unlocking mine from the inside leaves it unlocked.....but if you open the door and push the lock lever and shut the door;LOCKED.

    I keep my spare key in a slightly different location.
  • Glad your wife got back in quickly. As Newman said just stick to the deadbolt. The latch lock is worthless, and only leads to situations like you and your wife experienced.
  • I'm glad your wife is safe and had no problems.
    Probably, the lock is working as designed.
    At least you are aware of the problem. Keep a set of keys neat the door so you can take them with you when you go outside for a few minutes.
    It will be a PITA grabbing the keys but, it will eliminate the problem until you get the situation corrected.

    Maybe a locksmith will know a solution?

    Thanks for posting.
  • Why would you need to lock both locks? The dead bolt should be sufficient.

    I agree it should disengage when you open the door from inside.
  • Don't know about your lock, but I had a standard type lock on a class c that locked me out once. If the door slammed a bit too hard, the dead bolt would engage on its own. After that I kept a spare key hidden inside the outside furnace panel. I figured I could always borrow a screwdriver from someone if I needed the key.
  • The handle is just a small lever lock can be popped with a screwdriver it really is worthless.Easy fix just don't lock it