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- Engineer9860Explorer
tkcrawford wrote:
Engineer9860 wrote:
GM just built its 1,500,000 Duramax last November. Considering Dodge/Cummins had a 12 year head start I would have figured that there would be far more 5.9L Cummins'
When this thread first started, I knew it wouldn't take long for one of the blue oval or GM boys to comment something like this. They just can't stand to see Ram have something to be proud of.
No bias on my part. Your bias read something into my post that wasn't there. I'm just surprised the Cummins isn't that far ahead considering it has been around forever.
I think the B Cummins is a great engine, so your comments about me are totally inaccurate.
Now go wash the dirt off your face - tkcrawfordExplorer
Engineer9860 wrote:
GM just built its 1,500,000 Duramax last November. Considering Dodge/Cummins had a 12 year head start I would have figured that there would be far more 5.9L Cummins'
When this thread first started, I knew it wouldn't take long for one of the blue oval or GM boys to comment something like this. They just can't stand to see Ram have something to be proud of. - travelnutzExplorer IIThere is NO "how you look" to it at all!
5.9 Cummins diesel was first offered for sale in the Dodge pickups in model year 1989. 160 HP - 400 TQ.
The Duramax 6.6 was first offered for sale in the GM twins, Cheverolet and Sierra, pickups in model year 2001. LB7 300 HP - 520 TQ.
That's 12 full years after Cummins first or almost exactly 1/2 as many years of Duramax production build.
Duramax had built it's 1,500,000th 6.6 engine in Moraine, OH for the GM trucks in November 2012 and has just over 1,600,000 Duramax 6.6 engines built as of April 2013. The Moraine, OH Duramax engine plant has a 200,000 build capacity per year and the only plant building the Duramax 6.6 engine for GM trucks.
Cummins built it's 2,000,000th 5.9/6/7 diesel engine for Dodge/Ram trucks in April 2013.
Simple math concludes the following:
In 24 year of build, Cummins 2,000,000 5.9/6.7 diesel engines made.
In the same 24 years of production, GM Duramax will have built 3,200,000 Duramax 6.6 diesel engines.
1.6 times as many Duramax 6.6 engines built as both Cummins 5.9 and 6.7 built. combined. - Cummins12V98Explorer III
wuhungsix wrote:
Cool video.
I was curious too so I did a quick Google search on the matter. PLEASE take it for what its worth, "I read it on the internet, so it gotta be true". Im definitely no expert.
It looks like GM and Isuzu teamed up in 1998 to build the Dmax. It wasnt until 2000 the first Dmax was sold in a GM truck. I found that info here. http://www.dieselpowermag.com/features/1303dp_history_of_the_duramax_diesel_engine/
Dodge and Cummins contracted in 1989 to put diesels in their trucks. found here. http://www.allpar.com/mopar/cummins-diesel.html
So depending on how you look at it 9-11 years.
So it does appear that Dmaxs are produced much faster to supply the demand of REPLACEMENT engines.
When GM or Ford have an engine problem they just swap out the engine. The Cummins is easily repaired but rarely needed! :) - Engineer9860Explorer
TugCE wrote:
Great Video. I have worked on a lot of Cummins Engines. We used them for driving Cargo Pumps and Generators. Some of the smaller Tugs that I worked on had them as Main Engines. They have always had a great rep.
I have to wonder if whomever got that engine in their new truck knows that it was the 2 Millionth engine. It would be cool if they put a special badge on it. A big customer or supplier probably got it though.
If I read the comments with the video correctly they put some sort of special badging on it. - MoteExplorer
TugCE wrote:
Great Video. I have worked on a lot of Cummins Engines. We used them for driving Cargo Pumps and Generators. Some of the smaller Tugs that I worked on had them as Main Engines. They have always had a great rep.
I have to wonder if whomever got that engine in their new truck knows that it was the 2 Millionth engine. It would be cool if they put a special badge on it. A big customer or supplier probably got it though.
I have a good friend who is a production engineer at that plant. I'll ask him if he knows where the engine went. - TugCEExplorerGreat Video. I have worked on a lot of Cummins Engines. We used them for driving Cargo Pumps and Generators. Some of the smaller Tugs that I worked on had them as Main Engines. They have always had a great rep.
I have to wonder if whomever got that engine in their new truck knows that it was the 2 Millionth engine. It would be cool if they put a special badge on it. A big customer or supplier probably got it though. - The_Mad_NorskyExplorerNeat video!
- Engineer9860Explorer
MARK VANDERBENT wrote:
Is that true about the duramax ?? 500 thousand away from the cummins. That's cool about the cummins !! I know there are a lot of cummins fans out there. I just didn't realize the duramax production was that close for 12 years after cummins.
media.gm.com - Engineer9860Explorer
wuhungsix wrote:
Cool video.
I was curious too so I did a quick Google search on the matter. PLEASE take it for what its worth, "I read it on the internet, so it gotta be true". Im definitely no expert.
It looks like GM and Isuzu teamed up in 1998 to build the Dmax. It wasnt until 2000 the first Dmax was sold in a GM truck. I found that info here. http://www.dieselpowermag.com/features/1303dp_history_of_the_duramax_diesel_engine/
Dodge and Cummins contracted in 1989 to put diesels in their trucks. found here. http://www.allpar.com/mopar/cummins-diesel.html
So depending on how you look at it 9-11 years.
So it does appear that Dmaxs are produced much faster to supply the demand of REPLACEMENT engines.
Are you saying Cummins owners are replacing their engines with the Duramax? I didn't know that, but I can understand why they would do it.
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