Went to the car show...Ram Power wagon

IBcarguy wrote:
You guys crack me up! There's always guys like you two that like to twist an innocent post into an attack of sorts. Your opinion could have been heard without the "troll" and "ragging" comments. Oh,what do you know... both of you are Ram owners! (I never would have guessed)

Innocent post? Hardly.

Troll? Yea, I stand by that. His post was intentional to bash and start acrimony.

Regardless of the brand of truck that I own, I call out people for nonsense like this.

Please show me the door sticker of a this properly equipped Raptor F150 with the 3000 lbs payload?

It is a 3/4 truck, that while it is tweaked for off road performance, is not nearly as purpose driven as the 1/2 ton Raptor with about the same payload capacity (acutally the Raptor appears to have more capacity).

Bringing up this point does not make him troll, just because someone doesn't like what is said. Assuming the number is true, it can be debated about how important the payload rating is, but jumping on the guy is BS. Are you really that insecure?

The Powerwagon is one of the best designed, best equipped, purpose built off road vehicles available. It's factory options for off road driving are nearly unmatched.
It is not designed for a heavy payload nor should it be used for such. You have to buy the right tool for the job.

I think some folks don't realize that trucks can be built very differently, both 1/2 ton and heavy duty variants. With the case of Ram's Powerwagon, FCA designed them to be off road crawlers, not on road haulers. Where there is axle articulation, payload will be minimized. I own a well-equipped RAM 2500 Hemi Megacab in the Laramie trim and it still has a substantial payload capacity of nearly 3000 lbs. If I opted for a diesel powerplant, my payload would have been cut to around 2200. Again, there are so many factors that go into the numbers on the doorjam placard.

Ford has the purpose built Ford f150 Raptor listed with a measly 1100 lbs of payload. But if properly equipped, Ford claims an F150 can be had with near 3,000 lbs of payload capacity.

IBcarguy wrote:
You guys crack me up! There's always guys like you two that like to twist an innocent post into an attack of sorts. Your opinion could have been heard without the "troll" and "ragging" comments. Oh,what do you know... both of you are Ram owners! (I never would have guessed)

Lol innocent, might want to reread the OP. Comments like better weight your groceries is certainly a passive aggressive statement.

You guys crack me up! There's always guys like you two that like to twist an innocent post into an attack of sorts. Your opinion could have been heard without the "troll" and "ragging" comments. Oh,what do you know... both of you are Ram owners! (I never would have guessed)

cyberiankhatru wrote:
I’m not raggin’ on Ram cause I like them but dang...a trucks number one job is to haul things.

Troll. You 100% are ragging on Ram. Too bad you don't understand that the Powerwagon was a purpose built vehicle, not built to haul or tow, but built to go off-roading. The payload is low because the vehicle wasn't designed to carry large weights.

By the way, a non Powerwagon 2500 crew cab 4x4 with the 6.4 has somewhere in the 3200 lbs payload range. More than the Ford or GM you quoted.

Move along...

Sure sounds like a post to rag on Ram?

That trucks number one job is to crawl rocks, not haul things.