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- EugarpsExplorerThanks everyone.
Asking for advice here is great but sometimes it's like asking for a drink from a fire hose! :W
I'll digest the information for a bit and make a decision. The Ricksons I'm considering a on Craigslist locally. If they're still available when I return from a 2 week trip, I'll check them out.
Best,
Bill - Vinnie6_7Explorer
jshupe wrote:
Vinnie6.7 wrote:
S Davis, How much air do you run unloaded? I have about 2500 miles on mine with the camper on the truck. Maybe 300 miles unloaded....hate how these things handle unloaded...maybe I'm running too much air. Think I have 60psi in the front and 75 in the rear. I do have the option of swapping wheels and tires when the camper is in storage...but what a pain.
Don't run any less than 70PSI in the 19.5s. In fact, the load tables start at 75PSI on most of them so even 70 is a bit of a risk. You can/will damage the sidewalls. I run mine at 80/95, and that's unfortunately (I think) the price you pay to get that much extra stability/ capacity.
I wouldn't say that my 19.5" tires had as much individual effect on ride quality as my air bags or StableLoads individually did. But with all three together I can't stand it anymore and decided to go full air ride. What are you running on your suspension?
I'm running firestone ride rites @ about 12psi. Was running the Stableloads..cant stand them. Returned to factory bump stops to the truck. Bilstiens and a Hellwig Big Wig rear sway bar kit. - n0arpExplorer
Area13 wrote:
06Fargo wrote:
19.5's on Rickson steel wheels are very heavy, increasing unsprung weight, reducing braking performance, acceleration, and mileage. They increase safety margin due to increased carry capacity. Very resistant to punctures.
1st set of 19.5's I used were Goodyear G-622 RSD Rge G. A bit noisy on paved roads and stone throwers on gravel roads (as in smash out the rear fender liners). The truck also displayed "duck and dive" lateral following of parallel cracks and ruts due to the stiff sidewalls. The GY tires were just ok on snow and ice. Not much bite for lifting a trailer if parking when warm on packed snow. OK in mud. Kind of disappointed. They belong on the back of a 550/5500 with a steel flatbed and the tunes cranked up in the cab... not on a 4x4 SRW... took them off they are in the shed should put them up for sale...
I bought a set of lightly used take off Michelin XZE Rge F "smooth" tires. The ducky handling still present, but less. Noticebly smoother ride, quiet, and ...here goes... much better traction on snow and ice. The grooves have zig zags molded in them and little ridge dealies in the bottom of the groove which bite on snow... and then the Michelin compound is stickier on ice... I wouldn't have believed it either...
And then... pulling a loaded 18000lb gooseneck stock trailer over a muddy 2 track into a pasture after a rain... the Dodge scratches it's way up a little jump up hill that a GMC diesel dually with "all season" 16in tires spun out on with a 5 cows smaller load, requiring a pull (despite frantic "spinning up" of his wheels)...
We all stood an looked at those muddy "smooth" tires and said "that's just not right..."
Anyhow the Ricksons and 19.5's are off the truck waiting to go on a 8 bolt 2 axle trailer.
There are better options available in 18in and even 17in tires now for recreational trucks.
Unless you travel smooth, non rutted and maintained roads. Rge F 19.5's worked really nice in those conditions for me.
What about 18" and 17" wheels? There are tires rated for 4k, but the wheels need to be at least rated for 4k also to make sense. Are there many or any rated for this in that size?
Regardless of capacity, the 17" or 18" wheels will not give you the stability that the 19.5" will. You trade ride for carrying capacity. Everything is a compromise of some sort. - Area13Explorer
06Fargo wrote:
19.5's on Rickson steel wheels are very heavy, increasing unsprung weight, reducing braking performance, acceleration, and mileage. They increase safety margin due to increased carry capacity. Very resistant to punctures.
1st set of 19.5's I used were Goodyear G-622 RSD Rge G. A bit noisy on paved roads and stone throwers on gravel roads (as in smash out the rear fender liners). The truck also displayed "duck and dive" lateral following of parallel cracks and ruts due to the stiff sidewalls. The GY tires were just ok on snow and ice. Not much bite for lifting a trailer if parking when warm on packed snow. OK in mud. Kind of disappointed. They belong on the back of a 550/5500 with a steel flatbed and the tunes cranked up in the cab... not on a 4x4 SRW... took them off they are in the shed should put them up for sale...
I bought a set of lightly used take off Michelin XZE Rge F "smooth" tires. The ducky handling still present, but less. Noticebly smoother ride, quiet, and ...here goes... much better traction on snow and ice. The grooves have zig zags molded in them and little ridge dealies in the bottom of the groove which bite on snow... and then the Michelin compound is stickier on ice... I wouldn't have believed it either...
And then... pulling a loaded 18000lb gooseneck stock trailer over a muddy 2 track into a pasture after a rain... the Dodge scratches it's way up a little jump up hill that a GMC diesel dually with "all season" 16in tires spun out on with a 5 cows smaller load, requiring a pull (despite frantic "spinning up" of his wheels)...
We all stood an looked at those muddy "smooth" tires and said "that's just not right..."
Anyhow the Ricksons and 19.5's are off the truck waiting to go on a 8 bolt 2 axle trailer.
There are better options available in 18in and even 17in tires now for recreational trucks.
Unless you travel smooth, non rutted and maintained roads. Rge F 19.5's worked really nice in those conditions for me.
What about 18" and 17" wheels? There are tires rated for 4k, but the wheels need to be at least rated for 4k also to make sense. Are there many or any rated for this in that size? - S_DavisExplorer
Vinnie6.7 wrote:
S Davis, How much air do you run unloaded? I have about 2500 miles on mine with the camper on the truck. Maybe 300 miles unloaded....hate how these things handle unloaded...maybe I'm running too much air. Think I have 60psi in the front and 75 in the rear. I do have the option of swapping wheels and tires when the camper is in storage...but what a pain.
I am running 80 in the fronts and 85 in the rears but I have a commercial canopy on the truck @11,000lbs loaded 90% of the time. So the only time I run unloaded is to go pick up my 14,000lb gooseneck for hauling my wifes truck to the drag strip. - n0arpExplorer
Vinnie6.7 wrote:
S Davis, How much air do you run unloaded? I have about 2500 miles on mine with the camper on the truck. Maybe 300 miles unloaded....hate how these things handle unloaded...maybe I'm running too much air. Think I have 60psi in the front and 75 in the rear. I do have the option of swapping wheels and tires when the camper is in storage...but what a pain.
Don't run any less than 70PSI in the 19.5s. In fact, the load tables start at 75PSI on most of them so even 70 is a bit of a risk. You can/will damage the sidewalls. I run mine at 80/95, and that's unfortunately (I think) the price you pay to get that much extra stability/ capacity.
I wouldn't say that my 19.5" tires had as much individual effect on ride quality as my air bags or StableLoads individually did. But with all three together I can't stand it anymore and decided to go full air ride. What are you running on your suspension? - Vinnie6_7ExplorerS Davis, How much air do you run unloaded? I have about 2500 miles on mine with the camper on the truck. Maybe 300 miles unloaded....hate how these things handle unloaded...maybe I'm running too much air. Think I have 60psi in the front and 75 in the rear. I do have the option of swapping wheels and tires when the camper is in storage...but what a pain.
- notevenExplorer III19.5's on Rickson steel wheels are very heavy, increasing unsprung weight, reducing braking performance, acceleration, and mileage. They increase safety margin due to increased carry capacity. Very resistant to punctures.
1st set of 19.5's I used were Goodyear G-622 RSD Rge G. A bit noisy on paved roads and stone throwers on gravel roads (as in smash out the rear fender liners). The truck also displayed "duck and dive" lateral following of parallel cracks and ruts due to the stiff sidewalls. The GY tires were just ok on snow and ice. Not much bite for lifting a trailer if parking when warm on packed snow. OK in mud. Kind of disappointed. They belong on the back of a 550/5500 with a steel flatbed and the tunes cranked up in the cab... not on a 4x4 SRW... took them off they are in the shed should put them up for sale...
I bought a set of lightly used take off Michelin XZE Rge F "smooth" tires. The ducky handling still present, but less. Noticebly smoother ride, quiet, and ...here goes... much better traction on snow and ice. The grooves have zig zags molded in them and little ridge dealies in the bottom of the groove which bite on snow... and then the Michelin compound is stickier on ice... I wouldn't have believed it either...
And then... pulling a loaded 18000lb gooseneck stock trailer over a muddy 2 track into a pasture after a rain... the Dodge scratches it's way up a little jump up hill that a GMC diesel dually with "all season" 16in tires spun out on with a 5 cows smaller load, requiring a pull (despite frantic "spinning up" of his wheels)...
We all stood an looked at those muddy "smooth" tires and said "that's just not right..."
Anyhow the Ricksons and 19.5's are off the truck waiting to go on a 8 bolt 2 axle trailer.
There are better options available in 18in and even 17in tires now for recreational trucks.
Unless you travel smooth, non rutted and maintained roads. Rge F 19.5's worked really nice in those conditions for me. - n0arpExplorerThey're not super aggressive, but they're a good middle ground and a great all-rounder from what I can tell so far: Michelin XDS2
https://www.michelinb2b.com/wps/b2bcontent/PDF/XDS2_DataPg.pdf - Area13Explorertrying to figure out pic
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