What about the 6.4L Power Stroke ???

45Ricochet wrote:
Couldn't wait for the Ram basher to show up in a CP4 post.
I'll calling BS on your cousin and your CP3 comments. Show us some paper work.
Just black the customer name and VIN, leave the dealership though. Ahh what the heck, give us everything Hillary :W

That's what I thought, no proof as usual. Just gibberish from a troll.

Capt. Rico, :B
The Ford basher raises his ugly head again... I don't work at this dealership so how can I provide any documentation. I get this info from my cousin either during Christmas or a family get together! Not like I have the server locked up and keeping this private. :W

BTW... Is this you trying to impress the ladies and looking like a fool!

Capt Rico

Couldn't wait for the Ram basher to show up in a CP4 post.
I'll calling BS on your cousin and your CP3 comments. Show us some paper work.
Just black the customer name and VIN, leave the dealership though. Ahh what the heck, give us everything Hillary :W

That's what I thought, no proof as usual. Just gibberish from a troll.

blofgren wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

blofgren wrote:
I had 3 Fords over 20 years including a 7.3L and 6.0L diesels. I bought a new truck last year and you can see what I bought in my signature.

I agree that the 6.7L is much better than the previous engines, but the CP4 high pressure fuel pump failures that trashes the entire fuel system to the tune of a $12k repair kept me away from buying one. Also be warned that several of these failures have not been covered by warranty by Ford leaving the owner on the hook. That was simply a chance I was not about to take especially since I plan on keeping my truck a long time, well past the warranty period.

To clarify the HPFP failure left the insurance company on the hook and then for the insurance company to go after the fuel supplier for there contaminated fuel.

Contaminated fuel was not to blame for many of these failures. This is a well known fact on all of the Ford diesel forums, as well as by many here. Ford's out is that the fuel was contaminated with water, even though the water in fuel light never illuminated on every case I read about. The true problem is the design of the pump itself which completely relies on fuel for lubrication.

In any case it is a "delicate" fuel pump and it would be irresponsible not to inform a potential purchaser of a vehicle equipped with the pump of the issue. There are other trucks out there equipped with fuel pumps that do not have this issue.

Ford has a documented procedure to determine fuel contamination. It's basically look for internal rust, DEF crystals or gasoline. If any has been found the warranty is void.

The shop my cousin works at has replaced 3 HPFP and 1 injector failure since the 6.7 has been on the market and all three HPFP failures were gas contamination. Also in the RAM side he's replaced several CP3 pumps for water contamination and gas and lot's of injectors.

And the seimens pump in the 6.4 is also very sensitive to gas as well.

FishOnOne wrote:

blofgren wrote:
I had 3 Fords over 20 years including a 7.3L and 6.0L diesels. I bought a new truck last year and you can see what I bought in my signature.

I agree that the 6.7L is much better than the previous engines, but the CP4 high pressure fuel pump failures that trashes the entire fuel system to the tune of a $12k repair kept me away from buying one. Also be warned that several of these failures have not been covered by warranty by Ford leaving the owner on the hook. That was simply a chance I was not about to take especially since I plan on keeping my truck a long time, well past the warranty period.

To clarify the HPFP failure left the insurance company on the hook and then for the insurance company to go after the fuel supplier for there contaminated fuel.

Contaminated fuel was not to blame for many of these failures. This is a well known fact on all of the Ford diesel forums, as well as by many here. Ford's out is that the fuel was contaminated with water, even though the water in fuel light never illuminated on every case I read about. The true problem is the design of the pump itself which completely relies on fuel for lubrication.

In any case it is a "delicate" fuel pump and it would be irresponsible not to inform a potential purchaser of a vehicle equipped with the pump of the issue. There are other trucks out there equipped with fuel pumps that do not have this issue.

blofgren wrote:
I had 3 Fords over 20 years including a 7.3L and 6.0L diesels. I bought a new truck last year and you can see what I bought in my signature.

I agree that the 6.7L is much better than the previous engines, but the CP4 high pressure fuel pump failures that trashes the entire fuel system to the tune of a $12k repair kept me away from buying one. Also be warned that several of these failures have not been covered by warranty by Ford leaving the owner on the hook. That was simply a chance I was not about to take especially since I plan on keeping my truck a long time, well past the warranty period.

To clarify the HPFP failure left the insurance company on the hook and then for the insurance company to go after the fuel supplier for there contaminated fuel.

I had 3 Fords over 20 years including a 7.3L and 6.0L diesels. I bought a new truck last year and you can see what I bought in my signature.

I agree that the 6.7L is much better than the previous engines, but the fact that the CP4 high pressure fuel pump used in it is known to fail which trashes the entire fuel system to the tune of a $12k repair kept me away from buying one. Also be warned that several of these failures have not been covered by warranty by Ford leaving the owner on the hook. That was simply a chance I was not about to take especially since I plan on keeping my truck a long time, well past the warranty period.

I have owned the 6.4 and the 6.7 and a duramax, and I can say without a doubt I wish I had the 6.7 still. The 6.4 in my case never had any significant issues but was extremely hard on fuel. When I stepped up to the 2011 6.7 the fuel difference was very noticeable. Just my 2 cents.

Baggy pants, as others have said above the 6.7 is best. The 6.4 is better than the 6.0 but is thirsty.
Good luck.

Please do yourself a favor and skip the 6.4. Anything other brand or even the 6.7 Powerstroke will be better. I had one, so Im not "bashing" without proof.

45Ricochet wrote:
I get the ones built from 2011- present. Lots of problems from 2008-2010 from the EPA leaning curve. 2004-2007 Cunnins and DMAX had pretty good track records.

X2 salesman told me not one before 2011 much better motor