What defines a TT as a "True Four Season"?
So, I have heard this phrase tossed around, "True Four Season", and I am wondering if there is literal exact definition that applies here. The fact that the word "True" is added to the term "Four Sea...
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Okay, so it seems that there are no clear definitions for what constitutes a "True four season" TT. I understand that you can only get so much R value out of a 2" thick wall, no matter what is inside it.
Here is a statement about the construction of an Outdoors RV TT (All models). This comes from a email conversation I had with an OR rep. I am just wondering if this is common construction among all TT brands, or is it superior to most?
"There are two layers of R7 fiberglass insulation in the roof as well as an R-15 Astro foil blanket. That is duplicated in the underbelly. We have an R7 in all of our walls including all walls in the slide out"
I currently am on the road in a Jayco Swift SLX. We have been traveling through the southern part of the US from Texas to California. All I can say is that, I am convinced this Jayco is made out of toothpicks and tinfoil. It is absolutely worthless at any temperature other then 70 degrees in the shade. I thought we were going to die in Phoenix, AZ. We are up near Yosemite now and the temps are decent during the day, but as soon as the sun hits this thing, it's like being in an oven and the AC is completely useless.
I am a builder and understand insulation, so I am not expecting a miracle that defies the laws of physics. What I am trying to figure out though is, which brands are truly better. For instance, I went to an RV center and looked at a Heartland Mallard. Asked the salesman about the insulation. He made the same claims that that the OR rep did, and that is the problem; no salesman is going to run down their own product. So how do you really know if one us built better then the other?
I have lived in the winter in Texas in a couple RVs, and both blew through propane like water and you were still freezing inside. But I read an article about a guy whole spent a week in his rv at 18 degrees and claimed he was toasty warm and his 7lb propane cylinder lasted 5 days. I have never owned an RV that I could claim this about. All RVs I have ever used, were useless at temps other then 50 to 80 degrees. Anything outside that and the AC or the heater could not keep up.
I live in central Texas. It is mostly hot there, but we do get some low temps during the winter in the lower teens in January and February. If I could find a TT that would handle these temps "reasonably" well, then I would consider that to be a four season TT for me. I am not looking to spend the winter in Antarctica at -200 below zero.
My current prospects are Outdoors RVs. I have eliminated the Arctic Fox because they are designed for people who hate kids and want to live alone, as they do not have a single Bunkhouse model available (Frustration her because I would like to have an Arctic Fox). But I am striking out at finding a bunkhouse model of Outdoors RV for sale in my price range (I have looked in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California). So, if there are other brands out there I should be looking at, then I would appreciate the name.
Here is a statement about the construction of an Outdoors RV TT (All models). This comes from a email conversation I had with an OR rep. I am just wondering if this is common construction among all TT brands, or is it superior to most?
"There are two layers of R7 fiberglass insulation in the roof as well as an R-15 Astro foil blanket. That is duplicated in the underbelly. We have an R7 in all of our walls including all walls in the slide out"
I currently am on the road in a Jayco Swift SLX. We have been traveling through the southern part of the US from Texas to California. All I can say is that, I am convinced this Jayco is made out of toothpicks and tinfoil. It is absolutely worthless at any temperature other then 70 degrees in the shade. I thought we were going to die in Phoenix, AZ. We are up near Yosemite now and the temps are decent during the day, but as soon as the sun hits this thing, it's like being in an oven and the AC is completely useless.
I am a builder and understand insulation, so I am not expecting a miracle that defies the laws of physics. What I am trying to figure out though is, which brands are truly better. For instance, I went to an RV center and looked at a Heartland Mallard. Asked the salesman about the insulation. He made the same claims that that the OR rep did, and that is the problem; no salesman is going to run down their own product. So how do you really know if one us built better then the other?
I have lived in the winter in Texas in a couple RVs, and both blew through propane like water and you were still freezing inside. But I read an article about a guy whole spent a week in his rv at 18 degrees and claimed he was toasty warm and his 7lb propane cylinder lasted 5 days. I have never owned an RV that I could claim this about. All RVs I have ever used, were useless at temps other then 50 to 80 degrees. Anything outside that and the AC or the heater could not keep up.
I live in central Texas. It is mostly hot there, but we do get some low temps during the winter in the lower teens in January and February. If I could find a TT that would handle these temps "reasonably" well, then I would consider that to be a four season TT for me. I am not looking to spend the winter in Antarctica at -200 below zero.
My current prospects are Outdoors RVs. I have eliminated the Arctic Fox because they are designed for people who hate kids and want to live alone, as they do not have a single Bunkhouse model available (Frustration her because I would like to have an Arctic Fox). But I am striking out at finding a bunkhouse model of Outdoors RV for sale in my price range (I have looked in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California). So, if there are other brands out there I should be looking at, then I would appreciate the name.
