NJRVer wrote:And you are never skeptical on what is told to the public?
Obama didn't put troops in Syria to protect oil. Trump flat out said he was protecting the oil.
Obama put them there to protect people.
ShinerBock wrote:NJRVer wrote:ShinerBock wrote:time2roll wrote:
What taxes are marked to have the military deployed around the globe to keep oil flowing. Why does this continue when we import so little oil?
Because it was a false assumption that we keep the military around the to keep oil flowing. It was just propaganda used by certain people to pander to political sides. As you say, we import little oil now, but our military is still involved in these places so the assumption that it is for oil is invalid. Although it is kind of funny that a certain political party president can attack a region for a certain reason and not one word is said about lying or it being for oil. However, if the opposite political party did it less than five years later using the same exact reason, all of the sudden they are lying and doing it for oil.time2roll wrote:
What taxes are charged to clean up the oil spills and clean the air from petrol?
The companies that spill the oil are mainly the ones who are forced to pay for the clean up. As far as air goes, everyone who is buying a gas vehicle is paying for its better emissions when they buy it.
As far as cleaning the air goes, there are companies such as Carbon Engineering that have the backing of people like Bill Gates that are working to pull carbon from the air and make fuel out of it. They have stated that they could even pull more carbon than what is being put into the air by the fuel. However, they will need ICE vehicles around to buy the fuel so it can pay for the infrastructure. Without ICE, they would likely not have enough money to reverse the amount of carbon in the air.
Better tell Trump to get the ships out of the Strait of Hormuz and not worry about protecting the oil in Syria then.
So is that why Obama sent troops to Syria in 2015 and also why the dems chastised Trump for taking them out of Syria earlier this year? Let me guess, when the left does it is for humanitarian reasons, but when the right does it then it is for oil. Just like when Clinton ordered the military to attack Iraq in November of 1998 for reasons of weapons of mass destruction and not one person cried foul. Yet when Bush did the same for the exact same reason less than 5 years later he was a liar that was doing it for oil. Sounds legit.
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ShinerBock wrote:
Who said I sold trucks? I was an assistant fleet management on the consumer side and as an account manager to fleet managers/owners on the dealership side. I was mainly power generation and filtration on the manufacturing side. Now I am a product manager for our 50+ PACCAR dealers.
Huntindog wrote:My proposal assumes 80%+ moves to electric. Those with special needs to continue with petrol can pay a bit more to mitigate the pollution created, not to pay for roads.
But under your propposal, the EV crowd would still not pay their fair share. Like a true liberal, you want to use more of other peoples money.... Suresales and income taxes will hit more people... But you want to still keep the petrol tax, which you will NOT contribute to at all.
Personally, I see the roads benefiting everyone. So EVERYONE should pay. Doesn't matter whether you drive a car at all. You live in a society that only functions because of roads. food, services, electricity etc. are all possible because roads exist.
So dump the petriol tax, and institute a person tax. Everyone pays a fee for the roads.
Nobody gets a free ride.
JRscooby wrote:ShinerBock wrote:
Yes, over two decades. First on the consumer side for a fleet, then on the manufacturer for both engine and vehicle, and now on the dealership side for the largest class 4-8 truck dealership group in the world(140+ dealerships) I used to work at on the dealership level but currently at the corporate offices. We are also the largest customer of Peterbilt(PACCAR), Navistar, Hino, Isuzu, Ford medium/heavy duty and various other makes.
So selling trucks makes you expert on what taxes the owner and operators of the trucks pay? If I had the money I paid in HVUT, I would be able to buy a new RV.
