Will the new Ram 1500 diesel need an exhaust brake?

broark01 wrote:
Yes, get an exhaust brake, a tuner, EGR/DPF delete kits and maybe a water/methanol injector too. Replace the stock air intake with an aftermarket, also the exhaust tubing diamater will need to be increased. Eventually you will want to replace the injectors with high flow versions, lift pumps with higher volume version and the turbo with more turbo... Welcome to the world of diesels, are the 1500 3.0 diesels available now?

Just so you don't lose all faith in humanity, I get the humor here. I think some people have gone a bit heavy on the starch in their underwear lately.

Ok, just came to be. The new Ram will have the EcoDiesel. I'd hate to be an older gentleman walking around the campsite stating he has an ED.

They got pills for that.

pronstar wrote:
I'm seeing an EB as a "nice to have", but not a "must have", for the loads a half-ton truck is designed to pull.

Exactly, I guarantee Chrysler will not offer one. Fiat uses 3 litre diesels in much heavier applications than would be feasible for the new RAM without a hint of a EB.

tatest wrote:
Australia is not India or China. In 2001, most of the container hauling truck on the highway between Tanguu ang Beijing were long flatbed single trucks with 2.4 and 2.8 diesels under, or just over, 100H

Times have well and truly changed in China. The Country now produces and sells the same number of HDT Trucks as North America and Europe combined. They build a new Airport every two months.
India uses "Ox Power" a lot in rural areas, but Mercedes just launched a new Truck division in tbe country to join the many Companies already there.
Put Put type diesels have disappeared replaced by light trucks and HDT's all thoughout Asia. Small Kei like vehicles and three wheelers are used in other parts of Asia, but not hauling 20 tons.

RobertRyan wrote:

tatest wrote:
n the global market, small diesels don't usually have exhaust brakes, even where 2.4 to 3.0 engines are used to haul 20 ton loads. But ratings are usually lower than what Ram is advertising, and North American truck uses and driving styles tend to be different, particularly speeds

A 3 Litre Diesel towing 20 tones would get you an entry in the Guinness Book of records. Yes US Pickups towing specs are rated a lot lower than in NA. "Driving styles and speeds tend to be different" we have plenty of people cruising at 65-70mph in their diesel Pickups, not really different there.
Stopping is the same as a Petrol(gas) Pickup.

Australia is not India or China. In 2001, most of the container hauling truck on the highway between Tanguu ang Beijing were long flatbed single trucks with 2.4 and 2.8 diesels under, or just over, 100HP. My dad and uncle hauled 20 ton steel loads between Detroit and Toledo with even less powerful engines, 80 HP rated 239 CID flathead Fords. Different places, different times, 21st century Australia is not the whole world.

I'm seeing an EB as a "nice to have", but not a "must have", for the loads a half-ton truck is designed to pull.

I guess when the 3 truck companies are making trucks to pull like a semi the EB was necessary.
chevman

BillyW wrote:
I have zero towing or hauling experience with a diesel engine and just wondered how important that kind of feature might be with this new 3 liter wonder.

IMO its a must have and will have some type of exhaust braking like the Rams 6.7 VGT system.
I think Dodge/Ford and GM woke up to the benefits of a EB system the last 4-5 years.

Wilber1 wrote:
If companies like PacBrake and BD figure there is a market for an EB on the 3.0 diesel, there will be one.

I would say not ,for the RAM 3 Litre Diesel, but Air Brakes not Exhaust brakes have been used for the IVECO Daily a much heavier vehicle with a vastly greater payload. Same small 3 Litre sized diesel, but can tow a 38ft 5th Wheeler.

#40Fan wrote:

45Ricochet wrote:
Dang it I can't find IB516 thread about his 5.9 CTD 3500 coming down the Teton pass :W I'm betting his RV still smells like burnt brakes :B
Up until about 06 or so exhaust brakes were not common on pickups, especially with a automatic. Jump to 2011 and they are pretty much standard equipment across the board. Not sure about this new engine needing it, but it certainly would make for a less stressing drive.

Teton Pass

:B Good thread, Thanks