Forum Discussion
Huntindog
Jul 29, 2014Explorer
Mvander wrote:Until someone actually weighs one, it's all speculation....Huntindog wrote:mcsandman wrote:
Going to by a 2015 f150, which will weigh 5,000# and will tow in excess of 11,000#. I want to know, in ya'lls opinions, if that truck would do fine pulling a TT with these specs:
Dry Axle Weight (approx. Lbs.): 5375
Dry Hitch Weight (approx. Lbs.): 670
Net Carrying Capacity: 3955
Gross Dry Weight - Lbs.: 6045
Gross Vehicle Weight (GVWR) - Lbs.: 10000
Exterior Length (approx. w / hitch): 27'3"
First off, some of these numbers are unrealistic.
You state the F150 WILL weigh 5000#. How do you know? Is that a brochure number of a base model? Or have you actually weighed the one you are buying? There can be a BIG difference.
You state a 8200# GVWR for the F150. That would make for a 3200# cargo capacity for the F150.. That's not gonna happen.
As for the TT. You need a minimum of 10% TW. So the brochure weight of 670 is barely enough. It needs to go up as you load it. Recommendations are 10 to 15% TW. The reason is that on a TT, weights can move around quite a bit during a trip.
Freshwater gets used, and ends up in the waste tanks, food and drink the same. Propane gets used and disappears. clean clothing gets dirty and goes it the laundry chute. Some other things may just end up if different places than where they started. So it is pretty easy for a TT to have 15% TW at the some point of a trip, and much less at other points. Due to all the different TTs out there, coupled with all of the different usages, it is impossible for anyone to say just what your weights will be. So the safe assumption is to figure on 15% of the GVW... Which leads me to the next issue. This TT has a LOT of cargo capacity. Would this happen to be some sort of hybrid toyhauler?
At any rate, you need to decide just what is the MOST that this TT will ever weigh, and use that as the basis for the 15% TW calculation.
For illustration purposes a worst case would be 10000X .15 for 1500% of TW. Now IF this F150 really has 3200# of cargo capacity, it may work, if the receiver is up to the job, and Ford says that it's OK as far as other things like frame strength go.. But realistically this scenario would be firmly out of a 1/2 tons ability.
So to really say for sure, you need more accurate numbers.
FWIW.. When it comes to 1/2 tons, the factory tow rating can never be achieved towing a RV. It is a pie in the sky advertising number.
Im not sure the numbers are too far off. I have a 14' f150 8200gvwr and it has 20# shy of 2600# payload according to the door sticker. If the new aluminium trucks are 4-500# lighter then 3100# payload is possible. Mine is a crew 6.5 box 2wd. The 4wd are a little heavier.
The OP said it WILL weigh 5000#. Not about 5000#, or 5001#, or 5100#.
So base on his numbers it should have 3200# Cargo capacity. Not 3100#
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