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- covered_wagonExplorerNice shop, nice cars.
- NRALIFRExplorer
Grit dog wrote:
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It may just be the best time ever to be a car enthusiast!
You bet! Two fun examples in my garage.
GT and Bullitt.
:):) - covered_wagonExplorerThanks for the vote Grit dog. I appreciate your helping to make my point clear since I tend to bounce around at times.
- Grit_dogNavigator IIOops. Missed Kaytegs post.....
I’m just happy I can buy 900ft lb trucks and 700hp cars right off the corner car lot!
It may just be the best time ever to be a car enthusiast! - Grit_dogNavigator II
pianotuna wrote:
Why do you believe the fuel price would drop so much?covered wagon wrote:
What if in the future electric cars become so popular your electricity bill finally goes thru the roof and diesel prices are back to 90 cents a gallon? I'm hanging on to my old truck just incase. Really I love the fact I can work on them doing good work. Yes a novice I am and love to learn.
It’s like the demand for diesel now raising the price (and ulsd refining of course).
I won’t even pretend to know the real numbers but say 100million vehicles are now electric and electricity demand is 10fold of its current (no pun inteneded ) demand. New power plants, enviro regulation turning coal and nuclear super expensive and electricity prices go through the roof.
Now your home electric bill is $300 a month instead of $100 BEFORE you plug in all your vehicles, which by the way you’ll have to because you sold your oil burner 20 years ago and they quit making them last year. Make that a $800 power bill, but hey it’s economical and clean right?
Now you’re back to paying the same as if you filled up your tank every week. It can and will happen. Electric cars aren’t immune to the laws of economics and capitalism.
That was covered wagons point and it’s a valid one.
If one doesn’t see that supply and demand will apply to electric vehicles and the supporting infrastructure, just like any other scenario, then you’re choosing to turn a blind eye to it. - Kayteg1Explorer II
pianotuna wrote:
Why do you believe the fuel price would drop so much?
Supply and demand.
Once most of vehicles on the road become "alternative fuels" the supply on diesel will drop and the biggest industry in the World will starve for income.
So they will have to drop the prices.
On the other hand, electricity is based on natural gas and nuclear power, so what will happen to their demand and following electricity prices?
I've been observing Tesla development for about 20 years.
They have been about 5 years late on promised roadster sales, what did not go well as the car was just a toy, although with very impressive performance. Took Tesla another 15 years and huge government donations to come with a car appreciated by buyers, but with high prices and stopped government donations - the sales seem to slow down, as now they are putting $40k models on the market.
Either way, I think my new truck will become rust bucket before we will see reasonable electric pickups at dealers lots.
And I am talking rust bucket on Nevada desert :E - pianotunaNomad IIIWhy do you believe the fuel price would drop so much?
covered wagon wrote:
What if in the future electric cars become so popular your electricity bill finally goes thru the roof and diesel prices are back to 90 cents a gallon? I'm hanging on to my old truck just incase. Really I love the fact I can work on them doing good work. Yes a novice I am and love to learn. - covered_wagonExplorerI'm a novice and so far learned to change out a Turbo, injectors, water pumps, one injection pump, one radiator, starter motors, alternator diodes and other smaller items. On my diesel tractor I learned to change out the glow plugs and by pass the computer that went bad by adding a momentary switch. I learned to rewire the factory harness and reduce damaging AC ripple. I've upgraded the filter systems and finally the list goes on a bit more. All this in 24 yrs of owning diesels
My next projects are to add a schrader valve fuel pressure test port and replace the factory APPS with the Ford Mustang APPS called the Timbo Apps.
My point to all this is a guy can live happier, maybe longer God willing, obtaining that great sense of accomplishment. Being the novice I really am I would encourage others to learn all they can to do the same.
What if in the future electric cars become so popular your electricity bill finally goes thru the roof and diesel prices are back to 90 cents a gallon? I'm hanging on to my old truck just incase. Really I love the fact I can work on them doing good work. Yes a novice I am and love to learn. - Kayteg1Explorer III met commercial hauler who retired his 7.3 Powerstroke at 1,100,000 miles and he did not use it lightly.
Any diesel (beside 6l) of last 40 years is capable of making million miles.
But how many private owners drive more than 300k before truck becomes rust bucket?
The only bigger expense with modern diesel can be DPF clog.
DPFs don't like short drives, what can stop regeneration process at 50% and that is common issue on cars used for short commutes.
But lately ScanGauge made Xgauges programs that allow for DPF regeneration status and soot % monitoring.
I made only 1 long trip since I've got the program and on 400 miles my soot LOWER from 30% down to 12% and the regeneration never happen. Meaning with camper load, the DPF is self-cleaning?
I DIY the repairs, so oil cooler seals, turbo rebuild or sensor replacement doesn't scare me. Sure when someone has to drive 100 miles for qualified oil replacement, that makes different story.
Gasoline engines used to be much easier to service, but I wonder how easy it is find today a mechanic who can service direct injection gasoline engine? - HMS_BeagleExplorerThere are several documented cases of the Ford 6.7 and other newer diesels going over 800K miles. Materials science just keeps making the engine fundamentals better.
I'm ambivalent about removing the smog controls - I can't do it where I live, but I'm not sure I'd do it if I could. There are hundreds of reports of "deleting" the smog equipment, the documented improvement in mileage is less than 1 mpg (on the 6.7, at least). And it is kind of nice to have no smoke, no soot, no stink, wipe your finger in the exhaust pipe and it comes out clean. The only real advantage of deleting the smog is a hope of avoiding a repair cost in the future.
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