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- cross_countryExplorerCrossed at Nogales truck crossing; officer asked "where you going?" Mazatlan. "I'm from there" walked through the coach, opened the fridge but didn't care what was in there, pet the dogs, disembarked and said have a nice trip. That was it. Basically the same with our travelling partner in the other motorhome. That was this week, a few days ago.
- moishehExplorertepetapan: Do you ever cross at Nogales? I do and I see the PU's loaded and some with everything laid out on a tarp. Nothing second hand about my post. And the story is not 5 years old. It happens all the time. If you think there is no out of hand corruption with Aduana then you are very naïve. I am crossing next week and have some big items so I will be on that lot with the junk men. Maybe I could get them to sign an affidavit for a doubting Thomas. But then you probably wouldn't believe that either. Just what is your problem? If it does not come out of your mouth it cannot be true?? Amazing !!! At Xmas there are additional Aduaneros and signs with a toll free number for the Paisanos who get ripped off by those Adianeros.
Moisheh - tepetapanExplorer
moisheh wrote:
I too do not pay mordida but thousands of Mexicans do every week. Over the years Presidents have fired the entire staff of Aduaneros ( Salinas, Fox and more)They replaced the old guys in dirty green uniforms with young hip college types in Blue uniforms. Many spoke English. But soon they too learned that there is a lot of $$ to be made. I know a fellow who has a second hand store in Sonora. Ever 2 weeks he goes to Tucson and loads his pickup with 2nd hand junk. At the border he is given a choice. Pay the mordida and go. Or take of all the straps, ropes and tarps. Ten he is to lay out all the merchandise and make a list with values. He would then pay the duty and spend 2 hours reloading. He just pays the mordida. Borders are very corrupt.
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This story is as least 5 years old, at least the first time I read it. And second hand story then. like now. Give it up. - MEXICOWANDERERExplorerAn RV'er asked about meat at the Tecate crossing. "Oh we've done it every year" "Don't sweat it, they don't check" "Meat is legal". The responses came fast and furious.
When I heard his story, he was ------ off.
"They came in. They took ALL the meat. They took all the vegetables. I lost a good three hundred dollars out of my side by side refrigerator"
The alternative was, to be turned around and exit then go 40-miles and re-enter at Garita No 2 in Tijuana. All the people who claimed "Shucks No Sweat" remained conspicuously absent on the forum, he said once he went back online.
After going to and entering Mexico for 52-years I learned the only sure way is to access Mexico import law and follow it to the letter. There are official sites offered by gobernacion federal, that can be read, then printed out, paper clipped, and carried aboard the rig. I've had to show some Aduaneros (SHCP SAT patches on their shoulders) "the rules" more than a couple of times. Their faces darkened, they handed the paperwork back to me, said not another word and left. Whether it was ignorance or seeking a propina, I don't know and I don't care.
But when they say "NO!" they don't mean "Maybe". - moishehExplorerI too do not pay mordida but thousands of Mexicans do every week. Over the years Presidents have fired the entire staff of Aduaneros ( Salinas, Fox and more)They replaced the old guys in dirty green uniforms with young hip college types in Blue uniforms. Many spoke English. But soon they too learned that there is a lot of $$ to be made. I know a fellow who has a second hand store in Sonora. Ever 2 weeks he goes to Tucson and loads his pickup with 2nd hand junk. At the border he is given a choice. Pay the mordida and go. Or take of all the straps, ropes and tarps. Ten he is to lay out all the merchandise and make a list with values. He would then pay the duty and spend 2 hours reloading. He just pays the mordida. Borders are very corrupt.
Moisheh - Talleyho69ModeratorI believe that the customs station is at San Emeterio, and immigration just east of Caborca. All are on the same road, Hwy 2.
- navegatorExplorerThere is really no cargo that goes trough Lukeville or very little.
Lukeville is on the US side of the border, Sonoyta is on the Mexican side and all cargo and personal vehicles travelling from Tijuana, Tecate, Mexicali have to clear customs and immigration at Sonoyta, this includes all traffic coming across the border from Lukeville that is on the US side.
Tijuana, Tecate and Mexicali are zona libre, some items bought in the US are allowed in, on the other hand the State of Zonora does not have a zona libre, Sonoyta is in the State of Zonora, Lukeville is in the State of Arizona, different country different laws.
navegator - tony_leeExplorer
navegator wrote:
Mr. moisheh you hit the nail dead on, "mordida", "para el refresco" (bribe) is all they care about, the "confiscated" items are sold in town or consumed by the aduanero's families, Lukeville/Sonoyta crossing on the Mexican side is the most corrupt port of entry in all of Mexico and the road to Mexicali, Tecate and Tijuana goes through town, everyone and all cargo gets "mordido" (bitten) crossing into the interior of the country.
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Didn't someone say here that no cargo goes through Lukeville, or is it just private vehicles contributing to this huge problem. - navegatorExplorerMr. moisheh you hit the nail dead on, "mordida", "para el refresco" (bribe) is all they care about, the "confiscated" items are sold in town or consumed by the aduanero's families, Lukeville/Sonoyta crossing on the Mexican side is the most corrupt port of entry in all of Mexico and the road to Mexicali, Tecate and Tijuana goes through town, everyone and all cargo gets "mordido" (bitten) crossing into the interior of the country.
navegator - Talleyho69ModeratorBack in about 1987, we waited in line for 11 hours (not in a moho, so no bathroom, no lunch) in Nogales to get our papers, and when we got to the front of the line, were handed a card that said our fee was $20US. I went ballistic, but calmer minds prevailed, and the 20 dollar bill was given to Aduana. HOWEVER-this was the year of amnesty in the US, and all of the Mexican families returning home had different papers, and were charged lots, and had most of the gifts they were taking to their families in Mexico seized, or seriously taxed. Very sad situation, which no longer occurs. Things have improved dramatically.
We have not been solicited for a bribe, nor considered offering one since, and won't.
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