No to Mexico? Feel safe here.

[briansue]

Chances are this post will be removed. What does it have to do with Mexico. Nothing. This is about those who are afraid to go to Mexico – or much of anywhere else. We do not know where this fear comes from but it has been mentioned on this forum that some people might consider living in bomb shelters on the chance they might be protected from all things they fear. Here is a company and a place that plays to all those who live in fear. You can now take your RV and hide underground. Many years ago as a trucker I delivered goods to either this place or a place just like it nearby. It is quite an amazing place and I drove a full size semi quite a distance in there. So for those who are afraid to go to Mexico – or much of anywhere – here is a place for you to feel safe.

http://news.msn.com/us/apocalypse-soon-group-building-largest-private-shelter-on-earth

http://www.almc.army.mil/alog/issues/MayJun99/MS353.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SubTropolis

http://www.innerspacestorage.com/?gclid=CIS2j8yV8LcCFXEOOgod-AMATw

http://www.foodlogistics.com/article/10255593/subterranean-storage

[qtla9111]

CKNSLS wrote:

qtla9111 wrote:

Tequila wrote:

CKNSLS wrote:

Tequila wrote:
They never did find the bodies of that couple murdered in their RV in Alberta. They have arrested someone. There were also some French Canadian RV'ers murdered in Florida that was played down by the Press. You wont see a Canadian government warning about RVing in the US or vice versa. You don't upset your largest trading partner.

Then there was the Bentley & Johnson case in BC, Canada. 2 Families were shot around their campfire. Well at least the adults. The 2 little girls 6 & 8 were kept alive & continually raped for 2 weeks before he shot them. They were 2000 miles from Mexico and the perp was not Mexican.

And I am sure the law enforcement in Canada and Florida have the "integrity" of the law enforcement in Mexico? Right?

That is a point, mind you the RCMP are now training the Federales.

That raises red flags to me:

"By late 2011, US funding had been used to "train over 55,000 law enforcement and justice sector officials, including 7,200 Federal police officers," according to the US State Department.

The New York Times reported that this training involved "conducting wiretaps, running informants and interrogating suspects."

It's all coming together.

IS it all coming together? It seems to me that corruption in the Police Department in Mexico exists for several reasons, and I will not go in to all of them. But one of the reasons is their paycheck!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/25/mexican-police-still-earn-low-wages-_n_980299.html

Now I know there are levels of corruption. The small corruption of a $20.00 "bribe" to a traffic cop to the cartels that supplement the incomes of police, judges, etc. to the tune of what probably is thousands of dollars.

Hence, we can train them all they want. But the corrupt cops will just notify the cartel that a wiretape is being installed in their house, phone, whatever.

Look how things have changed...for the worse in Mexico in the last ten years.

Until organized crime is neutralized in Mexico there is very little hope.

A reality check isn't limited to Mexico. There has been a global degradation taking place for the last ten years. No country in the Americas is free from corruption. Mexican corruption exists at the street level, however, it is a choice. In the U.S., major corruption is taking place at all government levels. How else does 40 billion dollars worth of illegal drugs, illegal aliens, illegal work camps, and more make their way into "the greatest country in the world"? Kind of arrogant to think those things aren't happening. Reality check?

[CKNSLS]

qtla9111 wrote:

Tequila wrote:

CKNSLS wrote:

Tequila wrote:
They never did find the bodies of that couple murdered in their RV in Alberta. They have arrested someone. There were also some French Canadian RV'ers murdered in Florida that was played down by the Press. You wont see a Canadian government warning about RVing in the US or vice versa. You don't upset your largest trading partner.

Then there was the Bentley & Johnson case in BC, Canada. 2 Families were shot around their campfire. Well at least the adults. The 2 little girls 6 & 8 were kept alive & continually raped for 2 weeks before he shot them. They were 2000 miles from Mexico and the perp was not Mexican.

And I am sure the law enforcement in Canada and Florida have the "integrity" of the law enforcement in Mexico? Right?

That is a point, mind you the RCMP are now training the Federales.

That raises red flags to me:

"By late 2011, US funding had been used to "train over 55,000 law enforcement and justice sector officials, including 7,200 Federal police officers," according to the US State Department.

The New York Times reported that this training involved "conducting wiretaps, running informants and interrogating suspects."

It's all coming together.

IS it all coming together? It seems to me that corruption in the Police Department in Mexico exists for several reasons, and I will not go in to all of them. But one of the reasons is their paycheck!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/25/mexican-police-still-earn-low-wages-_n_980299.html

Now I know there are levels of corruption. The small corruption of a $20.00 "bribe" to a traffic cop to the cartels that supplement the incomes of police, judges, etc. to the tune of what probably is thousands of dollars.

Hence, we can train them all they want. But the corrupt cops will just notify the cartel that a wiretape is being installed in their house, phone, whatever.

Look how things have changed...for the worse in Mexico in the last ten years.

Until organized crime is neutralized in Mexico there is very little hope.

[qtla9111]

Tequila wrote:

CKNSLS wrote:

Tequila wrote:
They never did find the bodies of that couple murdered in their RV in Alberta. They have arrested someone. There were also some French Canadian RV'ers murdered in Florida that was played down by the Press. You wont see a Canadian government warning about RVing in the US or vice versa. You don't upset your largest trading partner.

Then there was the Bentley & Johnson case in BC, Canada. 2 Families were shot around their campfire. Well at least the adults. The 2 little girls 6 & 8 were kept alive & continually raped for 2 weeks before he shot them. They were 2000 miles from Mexico and the perp was not Mexican.

And I am sure the law enforcement in Canada and Florida have the "integrity" of the law enforcement in Mexico? Right?

That is a point, mind you the RCMP are now training the Federales.

That raises red flags to me:

"By late 2011, US funding had been used to "train over 55,000 law enforcement and justice sector officials, including 7,200 Federal police officers," according to the US State Department.

The New York Times reported that this training involved "conducting wiretaps, running informants and interrogating suspects."

It's all coming together.

[Tequila]

CKNSLS wrote:

Tequila wrote:
They never did find the bodies of that couple murdered in their RV in Alberta. They have arrested someone. There were also some French Canadian RV'ers murdered in Florida that was played down by the Press. You wont see a Canadian government warning about RVing in the US or vice versa. You don't upset your largest trading partner.

Then there was the Bentley & Johnson case in BC, Canada. 2 Families were shot around their campfire. Well at least the adults. The 2 little girls 6 & 8 were kept alive & continually raped for 2 weeks before he shot them. They were 2000 miles from Mexico and the perp was not Mexican.

And I am sure the law enforcement in Canada and Florida have the "integrity" of the law enforcement in Mexico? Right?

That is a point, mind you the RCMP are now training the Federales.

[qtla9111]

1oseph wrote:
Why you have to stir the pot ????

Reality check?

[1oseph]

Why you have to stir the pot ????

[qtla9111]

What is integrity? In all the American countries there are so many crooks running around now, it is hard to tell. U.S. Border agents (just imprisoned two more for smuggling 500 illegals, and 185 cases more pending), mayors, governors, politicians, local and state police.

[CKNSLS]

Tequila wrote:
They never did find the bodies of that couple murdered in their RV in Alberta. They have arrested someone. There were also some French Canadian RV'ers murdered in Florida that was played down by the Press. You wont see a Canadian government warning about RVing in the US or vice versa. You don't upset your largest trading partner.

Then there was the Bentley & Johnson case in BC, Canada. 2 Families were shot around their campfire. Well at least the adults. The 2 little girls 6 & 8 were kept alive & continually raped for 2 weeks before he shot them. They were 2000 miles from Mexico and the perp was not Mexican.

And I am sure the law enforcement in Canada and Florida have the "integrity" of the law enforcement in Mexico? Right?

[Yaj]

briansue wrote:

I rest my case!

This thread has become hilarious. I started it because I thought the idea that someone was selling underground resort property for sheltering from the apocalypse was pretty funny - and that anyone would buy one of these properties even funnier. But I guess these things make some people happy. The discussion has taken on some sort of life of its own - as I expected - but in directions I did not expect. It just gets goofier and goofier. I hope other readers get a kick out of all this too.

Hilarious isn't the word for it.
Posted in "RVing in Mexico and South America"
I get a kick out of you posting this in this particular forum.
Maybe you would have had better results in "Around the Campfire" because your first post had nothing to do with Mexico, as stated in your first post. Except that you then contradict yourself, "This is about those who are afraid to go to Mexico – or much of anywhere else.

As my daughter would say, "whatever".

[Tequila]

They never did find the bodies of that couple murdered in their RV in Alberta. They have arrested someone. There were also some French Canadian RV'ers murdered in Florida that was played down by the Press. You wont see a Canadian government warning about RVing in the US or vice versa. You don't upset your largest trading partner.

Then there was the Bentley & Johnson case in BC, Canada. 2 Families were shot around their campfire. Well at least the adults. The 2 little girls 6 & 8 were kept alive & continually raped for 2 weeks before he shot them. They were 2000 miles from Mexico and the perp was not Mexican.

[CKNSLS]

qtla9111 wrote:

stanbnv wrote:
How about the TRUE STORY of 2 or 3 years ago when a nice anglo couple was murdered and their motorhome set on fire by two escaped cons in New Mexico or the TRUE STORY of a nice Canadian couple murdered and theit motorhome set on fire in Alberta. Didn't see a State Department warning about travel to New Mexico or Alberta. I'm done with this topic, it's hidden.

Come on, those don't count, they happened in the U.S., remote incidences. Now, let me think of the last time an rving couple was murdered in Mexico? Be patient, this may take some time.

As for rving in Mexico because it's cheap, take a good look at the number of retirees who are now living in Mexico because they can no longer afford to live in their own country. I know people living in San Miguel de Allende on pensions way below those of Mexicans, it's criminal when a country can't take care of its own.

You live there. I like a pair of those rose colored glasses.

[CKNSLS]

fugawibill wrote:
And that link is of a incident in 2008, where the banditos hoped there was a race car in the trailer.

It doesn't matter the reason. And it was 2008. I don't even think there was a State Dept. warning back when that happened. Things only got worse.

[qtla9111]

stanbnv wrote:
How about the TRUE STORY of 2 or 3 years ago when a nice anglo couple was murdered and their motorhome set on fire by two escaped cons in New Mexico or the TRUE STORY of a nice Canadian couple murdered and theit motorhome set on fire in Alberta. Didn't see a State Department warning about travel to New Mexico or Alberta. I'm done with this topic, it's hidden.

Come on, those don't count, they happened in the U.S., remote incidences. Now, let me think of the last time an rving couple was murdered in Mexico? Be patient, this may take some time.

As for rving in Mexico because it's cheap, take a good look at the number of retirees who are now living in Mexico because they can no longer afford to live in their own country. I know people living in San Miguel de Allende on pensions way below those of Mexicans, it's criminal when a country can't take care of its own.

[stanbnv]

How about the TRUE STORY of 2 or 3 years ago when a nice anglo couple was murdered and their motorhome set on fire by two escaped cons in New Mexico or the TRUE STORY of a nice Canadian couple murdered and theit motorhome set on fire in Alberta. Didn't see a State Department warning about travel to New Mexico or Alberta. I'm done with this topic, it's hidden.

[fugawibill]

And that link is of a incident in 2008, where the banditos hoped there was a race car in the trailer.