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Lou_Morris
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Jan 03, 2017

Question about crossing with expired 10yr permit

We haven't driven across the border in the RV for a few years, and our 10 yr permit expired in November. But we're planning to cross the border this Friday (Jan 6) at Nogales. I'm hoping we can do whatever we have to do to process the expired permit at the same time we apply for the new one, but I expect it might not be that easy. So I'm hoping someone can shed some light on what we might expect.

Also, I have a different passport (and number) than the one we used to for the original (now expired) permit. I don't have the old passport, but I have a copy of my application for the new passport that matches me to the old number as well. Hoping that will be enough proof.

I did search and found a record of our old permit on that SHCP site someone posted a few months ago. So we're in the database.

Anyone have experience with this scenario?

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  • MarkTwain's avatar
    MarkTwain
    Explorer
    Jan 03, 2017
    Lou Morris wrote:
    We haven't driven across the border in the RV for a few years, and our 10 yr permit expired in November. But we're planning to cross the border this Friday (Jan 6) at Nogales. I'm hoping we can do whatever we have to do to process the expired permit at the same time we apply for the new one, but I expect it might not be that easy. So I'm hoping someone can shed some light on what we might expect.

    Also, I have a different passport (and number) than the one we used to for the original (now expired) permit. I don't have the old passport, but I have a copy of my application for the new passport that matches me to the old number as well. Hoping that will be enough proof.

    I did search and found a record of our old permit on that SHCP site someone posted a few months ago. So we're in the database.

    Anyone have experience with this scenario?

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    "Get all your paper work completed BEFORE you cross the border:)
  • moisheh's avatar
    moisheh
    Explorer
    Jan 03, 2017
    Are you crossing with the same vehicle? You might consider putting the permit unit in your wife's name. You might (key word) even be able to cross with the new passport and everything will be fine. I would not show them your old passport number. I am not sure if the fellows at the border can cancel your old permit. But remember the unit must be there for the permit to be canceled. If the Aduanero cannot cancel the permit he might want you to send a bunch of paperwork to Mexico. Takes months. Good Luck.

    Moisheh
  • Talleyho69's avatar
    Talleyho69
    Moderator
    Jan 03, 2017
    IF it were me......

    I'd take off the 10 year permit, and get your new permit on-line (it's very fast).

    Since you have a new passport, it should just come to you with no problem.

    Second choice, do it at the border and put it in the name of the person who didn't have the last permit in theirs, assuming you have more than one name on the title.
  • moisheh's avatar
    moisheh
    Explorer
    Jan 03, 2017
    Lou: I just read your post about fuel. Is that 2007 Sprinter the same vehicle that had the 10 year permit? Or is it a new to you unit?

    Moisheh
  • Lou_Morris's avatar
    Lou_Morris
    Explorer
    Jan 03, 2017
    moisheh wrote:
    Lou: I just read your post about fuel. Is that 2007 Sprinter the same vehicle that had the 10 year permit? Or is it a new to you unit?

    Moisheh


    Same Sprinter RV we had the old permit on. 2007 Winne View.
  • Canadian_Rainbi's avatar
    Canadian_Rainbi
    Explorer
    Jan 04, 2017
    We had our Jeep stolen in Mexico in 2014 and not recovered. We spent a week running around trying to get permit cancelled and finally gave up. In 2015 we came in with a new jeep, different passport number. No problem.

    As suggested above I would apply on line and once the new decal arrives remove the old one. And shut up about the old one at the border!
  • playaboy's avatar
    playaboy
    Explorer
    Jan 05, 2017
    Lou Morris wrote:
    We haven't driven across the border in the RV for a few years, and our 10 yr permit expired in November. But we're planning to cross the border this Friday (Jan 6) at Nogales. I'm hoping we can do whatever we have to do to process the expired permit at the same time we apply for the new one, but I expect it might not be that easy. So I'm hoping someone can shed some light on what we might expect.

    Also, I have a different passport (and number) than the one we used to for the original (now expired) permit. I don't have the old passport, but I have a copy of my application for the new passport that matches me to the old number as well. Hoping that will be enough proof.

    I did search and found a record of our old permit on that SHCP site someone posted a few months ago. So we're in the database.

    Anyone have experience with this scenario?

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    You are stressing over nothing.

    Here is what you do; drive past the INM/Banjercito at the old 20km checkpoint. Make a u-turn and drive up to the vehicle cancellation kiosks, on the right side of the road, opposite the checkpoint. Cancel the old TIP there, they don't care that it is expired. Make sure you have the original paperwork. Keep the receipt.

    Now drive north and again make a u-turn. Pull into the large lot, get your FMM, make copies outside the office, then walk to the Banjercito window and apply for the new TIP.

    That is all you have to do.
  • Canadian_Rainbi's avatar
    Canadian_Rainbi
    Explorer
    Jan 06, 2017
    playaboy wrote:
    Lou Morris wrote:
    We haven't driven across the border in the RV for a few years, and our 10 yr permit expired in November. But we're planning to cross the border this Friday (Jan 6) at Nogales. I'm hoping we can do whatever we have to do to process the expired permit at the same time we apply for the new one, but I expect it might not be that easy. So I'm hoping someone can shed some light on what we might expect.

    Also, I have a different passport (and number) than the one we used to for the original (now expired) permit. I don't have the old passport, but I have a copy of my application for the new passport that matches me to the old number as well. Hoping that will be enough proof.

    I did search and found a record of our old permit on that SHCP site someone posted a few months ago. So we're in the database.

    Anyone have experience with this scenario?

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    You are stressing over nothing.

    Here is what you do; drive past the INM/Banjercito at the old 20km checkpoint. Make a u-turn and drive up to the vehicle cancellation kiosks, on the right side of the road, opposite the checkpoint. Cancel the old TIP there, they don't care that it is expired. Make sure you have the original paperwork. Keep the receipt.

    Now drive north and again make a u-turn. Pull into the large lot, get your FMM, make copies outside the office, then walk to the Banjercito window and apply for the new TIP.

    That is all you have to do.


    VERY BAD ADVICE

    There is a VERY LARGE PENALTY for driving a vehicle with an expired TIP in Mexico. Including CONFISCATION of the vehicle. Just get a new one as has been mentioned several times above BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE THAT. DO NOT mention that the old one expired without being cancelled. You will be safe with the new passport number.
  • moisheh's avatar
    moisheh
    Explorer
    Jan 06, 2017
    So will playaaboy pay the fine if required? I agree with Rainbirds. Very bad advice.

    Moisheh

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