Another Capital Reef Question

Lauren wrote:


I hafta laff as people who show the pictures they want so as to prove a point and avoid the whole truth. Seems soos's pictures do just that. Soos must be a politician as they are good at that! :-)

Huh?
I posted links to a blog post that i wrote 3 years ago, soon after driving that road. I Certainly didn't just pick the pictures to prove a point on this thread, years after the trip.
The FACT is that we had no issues on that road and thoroughly enjoyed it. In fact we've driven it several times, always towing.
Obviously people have varying opinions and comfort levels towing a rig and my DH is an experienced driver who enjoys being behind the wheel so maybe we enjoyed it more than others would.

I might add that we love Hwy 12 and drove it in our 40' motorhome every time we were in the area. The hogback is not sheer drop-offs. It's a short stretch with a gradual slope. :)

Yes, we have T M, but we also agree on many things as well! :-)

I just try and lay it out as truthfully as I can but I also state it is personal comfort when it comes to roads. I was in sales and used to put on 2 times more miles in a month that most people did in a year. Maybe that is why now I run a bit conservative on it.

Some people - and I have seen them - go to the edge of the Grand Canyon (against the rules / law BTW) and stand on loose gravel at the edge and peer down 4000 feet. I don't do or recommend that either!

Lauren wrote:
I did not think this would - as many threads on here do - talk about Escalante Staircase; highway 12 between Torrey and Escalante. Read Mountain Directory West. I am an experienced mountain driver and would not recommend that drive with an rv. Simple as that.

The road has many grades, some very steep. It has tight curves. And the hogback section has dropoffs on both sides, little shoulder and no guardrails.

And, of course, the "other driver" that takes their half out of the middle which is not fun at any time in any vehicle regardless if it is the hogback, a tight turn or they are gawking, on the phone or texting.

I hafta laff as people who show the pictures they want so as to prove a point and avoid the whole truth. Seems soos's pictures do just that. Soos must be a politician as they are good at that! :-)

I wasn't going to comment on highway 12 either, because I've commented on it extensively as well. But since Lauren had to chime in I couldn't resist. Lauren and I have bantered about 12 and other routes. We've driven many of the same roads with very different opinions. I've driven 12 in two fivers and the current MH probably close to a dozen times. I even rerouted our trip to drive it to see the aspen on Boulder Mountain in the fall. Driving my 1991 Miata with the top down at well over the posted limit is on my bucket list.

It is one of the most spectacular drives in the Four Corners. Navigating it in an RV is about experience, tolerance for the stated conditions, and situational awareness. Yes, you can drive off the edge or be forced off the edge. Idiots drive in both lanes. But the view before you hit the bottom would be spectacular. Just make sure the GoPro is running.

ok thanks everyone for replies. We are just staying in that area till we feel we want to move on then it would be to moab. And like I said we were in the area in sept. 2013 but capt. reef was closed cause all of the rain. we just got to drive thru on hyw 24 but even with the rain it was pretty. Anyway we cant wait to go :)

We did the whole stretch of 12 in 2013 and it was very beautiful but I will admit part of the road between Escalate and boulder scared me! But not my husband and we were pulling 26ft TT. He is not afraid of heights and I am. People that don't have a fear of heights have no idea the fear factor. Anyway since he is driver I just close my eyes and he tells me when its ok :) If the driver has no problem with heights go and don't miss this beautiful scenery. Now he is trying to talk me in to million dollar hyw,since we will be out that way but we now have 36 ft 5th wheel so I said yes without the 5th :)

We did 12 going south a couple of years ago and when we crossed the dreaded hogback we didn't even realize that was it. I kept waiting for this dangerous long stretch of road and it never came. When we got to Escalante I then realized that the hogback must have been the 1/2 mile stretch with drop offs that is over before you know it. Route 12 is a spectacular drive and don't let the naysayers stop you from traveling it.

I have made this comment so many times I almost decided not to say it again, but I just can't resist.

The drive along Utah 12 was one of our most enjoyable in all our travels throughout the United States. We had not one moment of tension. I have genuinely been surprised that so many have expressed concern about this highway.

OK, I've said it again, and it is the truth. But . . . I am not trying to change anyone's mind who thinks otherwise. And I am certainly not recommending it. Fortunately for us, we had heard nothing to make us apprehensive when we did drive it several years ago with our 32' fifth-wheel. It was just the way we had already planned to go from Bryce to Torrey. For us it was truly an experience of serendipity.

We may never go that way again, but it would be a pleasure if we could be able to. And thankful for the memories.

I did not think this would - as many threads on here do - talk about Escalante Staircase; highway 12 between Torrey and Escalante. Read Mountain Directory West. I am an experienced mountain driver and would not recommend that drive with an rv. Simple as that.

The road has many grades, some very steep. It has tight curves. And the hogback section has dropoffs on both sides, little shoulder and no guardrails.

And, of course, the "other driver" that takes their half out of the middle which is not fun at any time in any vehicle regardless if it is the hogback, a tight turn or they are gawking, on the phone or texting.

I hafta laff as people who show the pictures they want so as to prove a point and avoid the whole truth. Seems soos's pictures do just that. Soos must be a politician as they are good at that! :-)

lfloom wrote:
The road between capitol reef and escalante had me nearly in tears. I was terrified. I am usually the driver, but I could not do it. My husband took over, but not until we had an argument about how he really needed to respect my fear of the road and to drive very carefully.

I hope to do So Utah again someday, but it I wont drive that road. It was scary in car, terrifying with a trailer.

wow, talk about different strokes for different folks. I LOVED that drive and we were towing a 38 ft 5th wheel. what a stunningly beautiful drive! We kept pulling over to take pictures every chance we got

One of my several posts about that area
Rte 12 Utah

oh, and one more that is mostly just pics of the road
the view from the window