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ToddD
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Jan 10, 2020

Pets and National Parks

I'd have posted this in the Pets forum, but it's a ghost town over there.

We're doing an 8 week trip this year with our 5er, hitting a bunch of National Parks along the way.

My understanding is that, except for some narrow restrictions, like a few feet from roadways, pets are not permitted in National Parks.

Most of the parks we are hitting that's not a problem, we can leave the pooch at the camper for 5-6 hours while we go do sightseeing with the truck.

But at the big parks, like Yellowstone, we might need to be gone more than 8 hours per day to account for the potential travel times just to get to the sights.

What do people normally do in those situations?

Todd

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  • ppine's avatar
    ppine
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    Jan 11, 2020
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    One of the reasons I avoid parks are the rules regarding dogs. I travel solo a lot and my dog is the first line of defense. She has great hearing and a great nose often seeing predators before I do. She is well behaved. When I run into hikers and especially livestock, I take her off the trail and tell her to sit.
  • mdcamping's avatar
    mdcamping
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    Jan 11, 2020
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    Old-Biscuit wrote:
    We traveled FT for 7 yrs with our Dog.....4 yrs old until 11 yrs old
    We did same as we would have done IF we where in a S&B

    As the dog got older we shortened or time away
    Instead of spending ALL day got----we used 2 days/3 days etc


    We still work 40, we had owned a Sheltie, as our dog aged out we found we couldn't get her out of the camper. We felt we were very fortunate that the dog traveled so well. Comes down to knowing your dog, knowing the rules and environment around you.

    been 5 yrs since we have had a dog, new Sheltie coming this spring, Will our new dog be a clone as our old one, probably not so adjustments will have to be made.

    Mike
  • BarryG20's avatar
    BarryG20
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    Jan 11, 2020
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    You can check the parks for kennels too. We used the one at south rim of Grand Canyon. Wasn’t overly expensive for the day and were happy with the conditions at least when we used it
  • Durb's avatar
    Durb
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    Jan 11, 2020
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    We don't travel with pets but I recall some posts regarding private parks in West Yellowstone having dog tending services due to the particularly long-visit nature of Yellowstone Park.
  • ScottG's avatar
    ScottG
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    Jan 10, 2020
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    ToddD wrote:
    dedmiston wrote:
    ToddD wrote:
    I'd have posted this in the Pets forum, but it's a ghost town over there.


    OP: You started off on the wrong foot by disparaging the Pet forum and then got snotty with other members. I've deleted your unkind posts and will reopen the the thread again for now.

    Please play nice to keep the thread open.


    For the record, I felt the need to qualify why I wasn’t posting this thread in the Pets forum because I fully expected to be attacked for posting “off topic” in this forum.

    While I’ve been a member of rv.net since 2001, I don’t spend much time on it much anymore since it’s become a tough place in the last few years (as you can see from some of the posts in this thread). I’ve preferred to contribute regularly on other sites.

    Thanks for cleaning up this thread, Moderator, I appreciate your commitment to making rv.net a more welcoming place.


    While it may seem like a particular forum is dead, most of us hit the "Newest" button at the top of the screen so we see any new thread that is posted, no matter what sub forum it's in.
  • Old-Biscuit's avatar
    Old-Biscuit
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    Jan 10, 2020
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    GDS-3950BH wrote:
    Old-Biscuit wrote:
    What do you do when AT HOME....gone to work?
    Dogs are routinely left home alone from time folks left to go to work and until they get back home from work

    YOU are the responsible party......your dog
    Do what you would NORMALLY do

    RV is no different


    It's a lot different. When you're at a campground you have people closer than "back home" while someone is at work, and most times they're outside. An RV is about as soundproof as toilet paper, I don't care what type, brand, or model. When dogs are left alone they typically bark at every noise they hear outside. Some might not but most do including everyone I have ever had, which is several. Sure our Spot never barks, he's perfectly behaved lol. To me it's just flat out ignorant to do so. Although I have never witnessed anyone being booted out of a campground, I have seen folks warned about it more than once. I have also been in campgrounds where folks have left their barking dogs there all day alone, and I have sat and listened to them way too many times to keep track of.

    You're 100% spot on they're the responsible party. I have never been to a public campground that did not have a rule that was worded something to the effect of "Pets may not create a disturbance or nuisance. Excessive barking is a disturbance" or something along the lines that you can not disturb other campers.

    One that comes to mind is in PA state parks, VA has something similar. "Pets must not be left unattended, except when using a restroom or visiting a park building for a brief period of time. When doing so, the pet must be kept in a camping unit or vehicle, weather conditions permitting."

    The emphasis is "brief period of time while using restroom or visiting a park building".

    To me it falls under camping etiquette, something that is going by the wayside.


    We traveled FT for 7 yrs with our Dog.....4 yrs old until 11 yrs old
    We did same as we would have done IF we where in a S&B

    As the dog got older we shortened or time away
    Instead of spending ALL day got----we used 2 days/3 days etc
  • ToddD's avatar
    ToddD
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    Jan 10, 2020
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    dedmiston wrote:
    ToddD wrote:
    I'd have posted this in the Pets forum, but it's a ghost town over there.


    OP: You started off on the wrong foot by disparaging the Pet forum and then got snotty with other members. I've deleted your unkind posts and will reopen the the thread again for now.

    Please play nice to keep the thread open.


    For the record, I felt the need to qualify why I wasn’t posting this thread in the Pets forum because I fully expected to be attacked for posting “off topic” in this forum.

    While I’ve been a member of rv.net since 2001, I don’t spend much time on it much anymore since it’s become a tough place in the last few years (as you can see from some of the posts in this thread). I’ve preferred to contribute regularly on other sites.

    Thanks for cleaning up this thread, Moderator, I appreciate your commitment to making rv.net a more welcoming place.
  • dedmiston's avatar
    dedmiston
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    Jan 10, 2020
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    ToddD wrote:
    I'd have posted this in the Pets forum, but it's a ghost town over there.


    OP: You started off on the wrong foot by disparaging the Pet forum and then got snotty with other members. I've deleted your unkind posts and will reopen the the thread again for now.

    Please play nice to keep the thread open.
  • riven1950's avatar
    riven1950
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    Jan 10, 2020
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    My ex and I back packed into the SW entrance of Yellowstone back in the 70's for 2 nights with our little dog. She ended up hearing things in the night and I think almost got us eaten by a bear. The last day Rangers road in on horseback ( only humans we saw ). They were not amused with the dog growling at their horses. Took my DL and told me to come get it when we got out of the trail. They sat me down for a long talk, told me about the possible fines and then let me go. Young and dumb but memories!

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We're doing an 8 week trip this year with our 5er, hitting a bunch of National Parks along the way.

My understanding is that, except for some narrow restrictions, like a few feet from roadways, pets are not permitted in National Parks.

Most of the parks we are hitting that's not a problem, we can leave the pooch at the camper for 5-6 hours while we go do sightseeing with the truck.

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What do people normally do in those situations?

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We're doing an 8 week trip this year with our 5er, hitting a bunch of National Parks along the way.

My understanding is that, except for some narrow restrictions, like a few feet from roadways, pets are not permitted in National Parks.

Most of the parks we are hitting that's not a problem, we can leave the pooch at the camper for 5-6 hours while we go do sightseeing with the truck.

But at the big parks, like Yellowstone, we might need to be gone more than 8 hours per day to account for the potential travel times just to get to the sights.

What do people normally do in those situations?

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I travel solo a lot and my dog is the first line of defense. She has great hearing and a great nose often seeing predators before I do. She is well behaved. 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I travel solo a lot and my dog is the first line of defense. She has great hearing and a great nose often seeing predators before I do. She is well behaved. 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Old-Biscuit wrote:
We traveled FT for 7 yrs with our Dog.....4 yrs old until 11 yrs old
We did same as we would have done IF we where in a S&B

As the dog got older we shortened or time away
Instead of spending ALL day got----we used 2 days/3 days etc


We still work 40, we had owned a Sheltie, as our dog aged out we found we couldn't get her out of the camper. We felt we were very fortunate that the dog traveled so well. Comes down to knowing your dog, knowing the rules and environment around you.

been 5 yrs since we have had a dog, new Sheltie coming this spring, Will our new dog be a clone as our old one, probably not so adjustments will have to be made.

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Old-Biscuit wrote:
We traveled FT for 7 yrs with our Dog.....4 yrs old until 11 yrs old
We did same as we would have done IF we where in a S&B

As the dog got older we shortened or time away
Instead of spending ALL day got----we used 2 days/3 days etc


We still work 40, we had owned a Sheltie, as our dog aged out we found we couldn't get her out of the camper. We felt we were very fortunate that the dog traveled so well. Comes down to knowing your dog, knowing the rules and environment around you.

been 5 yrs since we have had a dog, new Sheltie coming this spring, Will our new dog be a clone as our old one, probably not so adjustments will have to be made.

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We used the one at south rim of Grand Canyon. 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ToddD wrote:
dedmiston wrote:
ToddD wrote:
I'd have posted this in the Pets forum, but it's a ghost town over there.


OP: You started off on the wrong foot by disparaging the Pet forum and then got snotty with other members. I've deleted your unkind posts and will reopen the the thread again for now.

Please play nice to keep the thread open.


For the record, I felt the need to qualify why I wasn’t posting this thread in the Pets forum because I fully expected to be attacked for posting “off topic” in this forum.

While I’ve been a member of rv.net since 2001, I don’t spend much time on it much anymore since it’s become a tough place in the last few years (as you can see from some of the posts in this thread). I’ve preferred to contribute regularly on other sites.

Thanks for cleaning up this thread, Moderator, I appreciate your commitment to making rv.net a more welcoming place.


While it may seem like a particular forum is dead, most of us hit the \"Newest\" button at the top of the screen so we see any new thread that is posted, no matter what sub forum it's in.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-01-10T15:58:23.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-01-10T15:58:23.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":635},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:Campgrounds/message:3235028/message:3235045","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1237","rawBody":"
ToddD wrote:
dedmiston wrote:
ToddD wrote:
I'd have posted this in the Pets forum, but it's a ghost town over there.


OP: You started off on the wrong foot by disparaging the Pet forum and then got snotty with other members. I've deleted your unkind posts and will reopen the the thread again for now.

Please play nice to keep the thread open.


For the record, I felt the need to qualify why I wasn’t posting this thread in the Pets forum because I fully expected to be attacked for posting “off topic” in this forum.

While I’ve been a member of rv.net since 2001, I don’t spend much time on it much anymore since it’s become a tough place in the last few years (as you can see from some of the posts in this thread). I’ve preferred to contribute regularly on other sites.

Thanks for cleaning up this thread, Moderator, I appreciate your commitment to making rv.net a more welcoming place.


While it may seem like a particular forum is dead, most of us hit the \"Newest\" button at the top of the screen so we see any new thread that is posted, no matter what sub forum it's in.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3235045_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"Rank:rank:40":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:40","position":31,"name":"Explorer III","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:11932":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:11932","uid":11932,"login":"Old-Biscuit","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2009-06-20T20:19:16.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-11.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:11932"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3235044":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3235044","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3235044":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:11932"},"id":"message:3235044","revisionNum":1,"uid":3235044,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Campgrounds"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3235028"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3235028"},"subject":"Re: Pets and National Parks","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3235044"},"body":"
GDS-3950BH wrote:
Old-Biscuit wrote:
What do you do when AT HOME....gone to work?
Dogs are routinely left home alone from time folks left to go to work and until they get back home from work

YOU are the responsible party......your dog
Do what you would NORMALLY do

RV is no different


It's a lot different. When you're at a campground you have people closer than \"back home\" while someone is at work, and most times they're outside. An RV is about as soundproof as toilet paper, I don't care what type, brand, or model. When dogs are left alone they typically bark at every noise they hear outside. Some might not but most do including everyone I have ever had, which is several. Sure our Spot never barks, he's perfectly behaved lol. To me it's just flat out ignorant to do so. Although I have never witnessed anyone being booted out of a campground, I have seen folks warned about it more than once. I have also been in campgrounds where folks have left their barking dogs there all day alone, and I have sat and listened to them way too many times to keep track of.

You're 100% spot on they're the responsible party. I have never been to a public campground that did not have a rule that was worded something to the effect of \"Pets may not create a disturbance or nuisance. Excessive barking is a disturbance\" or something along the lines that you can not disturb other campers.

One that comes to mind is in PA state parks, VA has something similar. \"Pets must not be left unattended, except when using a restroom or visiting a park building for a brief period of time. When doing so, the pet must be kept in a camping unit or vehicle, weather conditions permitting.\"

The emphasis is \"brief period of time while using restroom or visiting a park building\".

To me it falls under camping etiquette, something that is going by the wayside.


We traveled FT for 7 yrs with our Dog.....4 yrs old until 11 yrs old
We did same as we would have done IF we where in a S&B

As the dog got older we shortened or time away
Instead of spending ALL day got----we used 2 days/3 days etc","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-01-10T15:22:06.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-01-10T15:22:06.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":635},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:Campgrounds/message:3235028/message:3235044","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"2256","rawBody":"
GDS-3950BH wrote:
Old-Biscuit wrote:
What do you do when AT HOME....gone to work?
Dogs are routinely left home alone from time folks left to go to work and until they get back home from work

YOU are the responsible party......your dog
Do what you would NORMALLY do

RV is no different


It's a lot different. When you're at a campground you have people closer than \"back home\" while someone is at work, and most times they're outside. An RV is about as soundproof as toilet paper, I don't care what type, brand, or model. When dogs are left alone they typically bark at every noise they hear outside. Some might not but most do including everyone I have ever had, which is several. Sure our Spot never barks, he's perfectly behaved lol. To me it's just flat out ignorant to do so. Although I have never witnessed anyone being booted out of a campground, I have seen folks warned about it more than once. I have also been in campgrounds where folks have left their barking dogs there all day alone, and I have sat and listened to them way too many times to keep track of.

You're 100% spot on they're the responsible party. I have never been to a public campground that did not have a rule that was worded something to the effect of \"Pets may not create a disturbance or nuisance. Excessive barking is a disturbance\" or something along the lines that you can not disturb other campers.

One that comes to mind is in PA state parks, VA has something similar. \"Pets must not be left unattended, except when using a restroom or visiting a park building for a brief period of time. When doing so, the pet must be kept in a camping unit or vehicle, weather conditions permitting.\"

The emphasis is \"brief period of time while using restroom or visiting a park building\".

To me it falls under camping etiquette, something that is going by the wayside.


We traveled FT for 7 yrs with our Dog.....4 yrs old until 11 yrs old
We did same as we would have done IF we where in a S&B

As the dog got older we shortened or time away
Instead of spending ALL day got----we used 2 days/3 days etc","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3235044_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3235043":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3235043","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3235043":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:347022"},"id":"message:3235043","revisionNum":1,"uid":3235043,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Campgrounds"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3235028"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3235028"},"subject":"Re: Pets and National Parks","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3235043"},"body":"
dedmiston wrote:
ToddD wrote:
I'd have posted this in the Pets forum, but it's a ghost town over there.


OP: You started off on the wrong foot by disparaging the Pet forum and then got snotty with other members. I've deleted your unkind posts and will reopen the the thread again for now.

Please play nice to keep the thread open.


For the record, I felt the need to qualify why I wasn’t posting this thread in the Pets forum because I fully expected to be attacked for posting “off topic” in this forum.

While I’ve been a member of rv.net since 2001, I don’t spend much time on it much anymore since it’s become a tough place in the last few years (as you can see from some of the posts in this thread). I’ve preferred to contribute regularly on other sites.

Thanks for cleaning up this thread, Moderator, I appreciate your commitment to making rv.net a more welcoming place.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-01-10T14:23:07.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-01-10T14:23:07.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":635},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:Campgrounds/message:3235028/message:3235043","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"997","rawBody":"
dedmiston wrote:
ToddD wrote:
I'd have posted this in the Pets forum, but it's a ghost town over there.


OP: You started off on the wrong foot by disparaging the Pet forum and then got snotty with other members. I've deleted your unkind posts and will reopen the the thread again for now.

Please play nice to keep the thread open.


For the record, I felt the need to qualify why I wasn’t posting this thread in the Pets forum because I fully expected to be attacked for posting “off topic” in this forum.

While I’ve been a member of rv.net since 2001, I don’t spend much time on it much anymore since it’s become a tough place in the last few years (as you can see from some of the posts in this thread). I’ve preferred to contribute regularly on other sites.

Thanks for cleaning up this thread, Moderator, I appreciate your commitment to making rv.net a more welcoming place.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3235043_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"Rank:rank:49":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:49","position":1,"name":"Moderator","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:280477":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:280477","uid":280477,"login":"dedmiston","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-01-26T20:17:58.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/images/dS0yODA0NzctMTI5aUE0N0JGRDRCQzE0Mzc3Rjg"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:49"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:280477"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3235042":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3235042","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3235042":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:280477"},"id":"message:3235042","revisionNum":1,"uid":3235042,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Campgrounds"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3235028"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3235028"},"subject":"Re: Pets and National Parks","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3235042"},"body":"
ToddD wrote:
I'd have posted this in the Pets forum, but it's a ghost town over there.


OP: You started off on the wrong foot by disparaging the Pet forum and then got snotty with other members. I've deleted your unkind posts and will reopen the the thread again for now.

Please play nice to keep the thread open.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-01-10T13:34:38.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-01-10T13:34:38.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":636},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:Campgrounds/message:3235028/message:3235042","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"372","rawBody":"
ToddD wrote:
I'd have posted this in the Pets forum, but it's a ghost town over there.


OP: You started off on the wrong foot by disparaging the Pet forum and then got snotty with other members. I've deleted your unkind posts and will reopen the the thread again for now.

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