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jwc99
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Didn't want hijack anyone else's thread so here's my question. I was given 2 solar panels to use with my tt. They are Siemens SM55, 55 watt, 17.4 volt, and 3.15 amp each. I will use this setup 1 time a year when I make my Smokey Mountains trip, the only time I primitive camp. I have one 12 v 105 amp hour battery on the trailer. The only power we use in the trailer is for about 15 min of led lighting and each of us a quick shower at night. I would like to use the panels to help with the battery. Since the panels are only capable of 3 amps each would I do better running them separate with a cheaper controller or should I tie them together? I don't want to spend a bunch of money on a controller if possible. What would you recommend?
Thanks
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westend
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jwc99 wrote:
Almot I have been trying to find the correct temperature probe, could you point me in the right direction. I have saw a couple but not sure what I need. It looks like one sticks on the battery, I can't find that one. And another connected to the post. Thanks
The temperature compensation probe is an accessory for that controller. It mounts on the lower side of the battery. I don't know that anything generic will work as it attaches to the circuit board.

Schneider/Trace/Xantrex C series product manual BTS pictured on page 12. Installation pictured on page 51.
Good luck!
'03 F-250 4x4 CC
'71 Starcraft Wanderstar -- The Cowboy/Hilton

jwc99
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Almot I have been trying to find the correct temperature probe, could you point me in the right direction. I have saw a couple but not sure what I need. It looks like one sticks on the battery, I can't find that one. And another connected to the post. Thanks

Almot
Explorer III
Explorer III
jwc99 wrote:
I was given 2 solar panels to use with my tt. They are Siemens SM55, 55 watt, 17.4 volt, and 3.15 amp each. I will use this setup 1 time a year when I make my Smokey Mountains trip, the only time I primitive camp. I have one 12 v 105 amp hour battery on the trailer. The only power we use in the trailer is for about 15 min of led lighting and each of us a quick shower at night. I would like to use the panels to help with the battery.

Any 10-15A controller will take care of panels. Xantrex/Schnaider C40 is capable of waay larger solar array, and is a nicely designed and fully adjustable. You might want to get (I would) their optional $20 temperature probe.

Your daily energy draw VS one battery is not clear, but a few days you won't have to worry about. Maybe - a few weeks, depending on how sunny it is and whether you have a DC circuit in your LP fridge.

Without fridge your panels will fully charge your battery on all but very dark days (think heavy rain or snow all day). Fridge is a big unknown. It may draw anywhere from 10 to 20 AH a day, unless it's a very old model with mechanical thermostat. With a typical 12-15 AH modern fridge and, say, 10 AH for all other loads, you need to harvest 25 AH from sun - possible with 2*3A panels on a sunny day. Again, with a typical 12-15 AH fridge on a less than perfect day you'll harvest 15 AH or less, and your battery will drop by 10-15 AH from where it was.

Edit - PS:
didn't notice that there was an uncertainty as to permanent or temporary panel mount. My numbers for solar harvest were for permanent roof mount: 6 Amp* 5 hours of full sun a day = 30 AH. I would do it permanent. With panels temporary leaned against the trailer you might get better results in off-season, as they will be tilted, but this is more pain every time. You'll enjoy your camping less then.

jwc99
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It's good to have friends that have are into everything. One does swap meets and comes up with all sorts of stuff, another is in the scrap business. I never know what they will find. If I could only find a friend that was a chiropractor I would have it made.

time2roll
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Free panels and now a controller? That southern hospitality sure has new meaning today ๐Ÿ™‚

Controller is fine. Connect controller close to the battery for best results.

westend
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Explorer
If I purchase another battery to add to the trailer and connect the solar setup would I be in good shape? What would be my best plan?
One thing we all know is that you will better off than before. As others have mentioned, securing the modules on the roof or on the side of the rig will be much better than schlepping them around or worrying about breakage/theft. One big advantage to having solar with an RV is that the solar system does a brilliant job for battery health. The ongoing daily charge will put years onto your batteries.
'03 F-250 4x4 CC
'71 Starcraft Wanderstar -- The Cowboy/Hilton

MrWizard
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yes it will work
its the same thing as the Xantrex C-40 i'm using right now
its very robust controller will handle over 600w of panels
I can explain it to you.
But I Can Not understand it for you !

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jwc99
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My buddy, after hearing me talk about getting a controller, just gave me one. I now have a Schneider C40. Will it work for what I am doing? The price was right so I hope it will suit my needs. I still want this to be a portable setup, I may mount it when I get the new camper. If I purchase another battery to add to the trailer and connect the solar setup would I be in good shape? What would be my best plan?

pianotuna
Nomad III
Nomad III
Use a single controller. Panels can smash. I'd recommend a permanent roof installation.
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

KD4UPL
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There's no advantage to using a second controller. Connect the panels in parallel and use one charge controller. I would add a good digital voltmeter if the charge controller you choose doesn't have one. The little LED "battery meter" in most RVs is useless.
I think you will be surprised how much power you will have. We have 100 watts and 2 batteries and never run out of power when off the grid.

time2roll
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Nomad
https://www.solarblvd.com Morningstar 10a controller $50

I would still mount the panels on the roof to keep the battery tip top shape between trips.

MrWizard
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a cheap $20>$30 controller from amazon either a 10amp or 20amp PWM controller
put both panels wired parallel together
I can explain it to you.
But I Can Not understand it for you !

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2oldman
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For 8 nights, with that little use, a good fully-charged battery should last. I'd bring another along just in case.
"If I'm wearing long pants, I'm too far north" - 2oldman

jwc99
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I usually get 2 days out of my battery before I take it off to charge. We stay 8 nights and what I usually do is take the battery off and charge it, I have a plug in my truck that charges the battery as we ride around. I was thinking about buying another battery and adding it to the camper for added support. This will be a portable setup, not something I will mount on the camper.