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Bed Rail Height Issue

RVn4lvnlife
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Explorer
I bought an F350 Fx4 and the bed rail height comes out to 58.5" unburdened, with a B&W 20K companion. Will any of the older brands work with this and if not, what newer brands will work? I have looked and looked but can't find a straight answer.
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Durb
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Explorer
To answer your question, not all older trailers will tow level with your truck. Better measure the trailer's overhang before you buy and cross the trailer in my profile off your list. Assuming 2'' of squat and 6" of bedrail clearance my 2008 trailer will tow 4 1/2" nose high behind your truck.

58.5" less 2" of squat plus 6" of clearance means you need 62 1/2" of fiver overhang to tow level. Model noted above would tow 2 1/2" nose high. Correct Track would probably pick that up.

john_bet
Explorer II
Explorer II
goducks10 wrote:
RVn4lvnlife wrote:
I bought an F350 Fx4 and the bed rail height comes out to 58.5" unburdened, with a B&W 20K companion. Will any of the older brands work with this and if not, what newer brands will work? I have looked and looked but can't find a straight answer.


It's virtually impossible to get the overhang height unless you know which 5th wheel you want and can call the dealership or if someone has the same exact model you're looking for.
FWIW my 2018 Ram 2500 is 57-3/4 at the axle/bed location and 58-1/2" at the tailgate. My 5th is a 2013 mid profile and works great. You need to remember that the bed will drop 2" or so and when it does that puts the bed about level. so for me I measure at the rear axle center on the bed rail. I have 6+" of clearance and the 5th wheel is 1/2" nose high.
My suggestion would be to hit some dealer lots and measure the overhangs of models you like.
i measured a bunch of them at the Indy show two years ago and they were at 60". My 2018 Grand design 337 RLS is 60" also.
2018 Ram 3500 SRW CC LB 6.7L Cummins Auto 3.42 gears
2018 Grand Design 337RLS

john_bet
Explorer II
Explorer II
My brand new 2 month old Ram 3500 2wd CC LB with Cummins sits at 58" at tailgate straight from the factory. It also has the optional air assist rear suppension and I was just barely able to make it work under my 2018 Grand design 337RLS at 5 !/2" of bed rail clearance and a level RV. When I loaded 2400# of bagged concrete mix between the tail gate and the axle it only lowered the tail gate height by 2" after I pushed the alt. ride height button. Yes these trucks are tall. My old 25002wd was only 52" at the tail gate and the same 5th only lowered the height by 2" loaded for a trip and it had no bags.
2018 Ram 3500 SRW CC LB 6.7L Cummins Auto 3.42 gears
2018 Grand Design 337RLS

Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
Op does NOT say what year his truck is. INFORMATION is required to answer any question properly!!!
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

billmac
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Explorer
I have a 2015 F350 SRW 4X4 and a 2005 Cardinal Fifth wheel. In order to level the trailer and get 7" of clearance on the bed rails, I had the trailer raised 4 inches. A trailer repair shop replaced my spring hangers and added steel braces for the longer hangers. I am a regular customer of the trailer shop and they charged me $300 for the job.

goducks10
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Explorer
RVn4lvnlife wrote:
I bought an F350 Fx4 and the bed rail height comes out to 58.5" unburdened, with a B&W 20K companion. Will any of the older brands work with this and if not, what newer brands will work? I have looked and looked but can't find a straight answer.


It's virtually impossible to get the overhang height unless you know which 5th wheel you want and can call the dealership or if someone has the same exact model you're looking for.
FWIW my 2018 Ram 2500 is 57-3/4 at the axle/bed location and 58-1/2" at the tailgate. My 5th is a 2013 mid profile and works great. You need to remember that the bed will drop 2" or so and when it does that puts the bed about level. so for me I measure at the rear axle center on the bed rail. I have 6+" of clearance and the 5th wheel is 1/2" nose high.
My suggestion would be to hit some dealer lots and measure the overhangs of models you like.

Eaglescout94
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Explorer
Rvn4, Iโ€™m going through a similar issue right now. My 2000 F350 4x4 is almost 60โ€ to the tailgate. I have an older 5th wheel, 1997, that Iโ€™m assuming was designed for a half ton. I have to add a subframe to lift it and might still put a shorter block between my trucks springs and axle. I donโ€™t know what year your truck is but it seems in the earlier years of super duties they were stupid tall.

laknox
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Nomad
RVn4lvnlife wrote:
I bought an F350 Fx4 and the bed rail height comes out to 58.5" unburdened, with a B&W 20K companion. Will any of the older brands work with this and if not, what newer brands will work? I have looked and looked but can't find a straight answer.


Check to see if you have lift blocks in your rear suspension. Many have 4" blocks and replace with 2" block to help with towing FWs.

Lyle
2022 GMC Sierra 3500 HD Denali Crew Cab 4x4 Duramax
B&W OEM Companion & Gooseneck Kit
2017 KZ Durango 1500 D277RLT
1936 John Deere Model A
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MFL
Nomad II
Nomad II
Not sure if I'm understanding your question, but if you mean older FWs, or newer FWs, I'd say many of the older designed FWs would not tow level behind the new tall trucks. The larger FWs would work best, even in the newer models. The so called 1/2 ton towables would likely not be the best fit.

Jerry