Biodiesel fuel vs Diesel # 2

[MarkTwain]

This not the right forum but I am unsure which one to use.
I use Diesel # 2 normally in my Dodge 3500 Diesel. I will be traveling through Oregon and Washington and when checking fuel stations along the way, I don't see Diesel #2 but rather Biodiesel2. Can I switch between these 2 fuels and not do any damage to my engine or other parts of my motor???????

Dodge guy

[HD_Hauler]

I don't chance it, my 370 ISM Cummins is only getting #2 straight diesel.

[zedd]

From the Diesel Supplement Manual for my 2008 F250:

"Diesel fuel containing no more than 5% biodiesel may be used. To help
achieve acceptable engine performance and durability, it is important to
only use biodiesel of good quality in your diesel engine. At a minimum,
the biodiesel should comply with ASTM D6751 or an equivalent
specification.
Use of biodiesel in concentrations greater than 5% may cause damage to
your vehicles fuel system components such as fuel tank, fuel lines, fuel
pump, fuel sender and fuel injectors. Concentrations greater than 5% can
also cause fuel filter restrictions that may result in a lack of power and
or fuel pump and fuel injector failure.
Look for a label on the fuel pump to confirm the amount of biodiesel
contained in a diesel fuel. Biodiesel content is often indicated with the
letter “B” followed by the percent of biodiesel in the fuel. For example,
B5 indicates a fuel containing 5% biodiesel. Ask the service station
attendant to confirm the biodiesel content of a diesel fuel if you do not
see a label on the fuel pump.
Biodiesel should not be stored in the fuel tank for more than three
months. If your vehicle will be parked or stored for more than three
months, then your vehicle should be drained and filled with a diesel fuel
not containing biodiesel.
During cold weather, if you have problems operating on biodiesel, you
may need to use a diesel fuel with lower biodiesel content, try another
brand, or discontinue the use of biodiesel."

Furthermore...

"Do not blend used engine oil with diesel fuel under any
circumstances. Blending used oil with the fuel will significantly increase
your vehicle’s exhaust emissions and reduce engine life due to increased
internal wear."

It also recommends shorter fuel filter change intervals if using biodiesel.

The newer (2008+) trucks with common rail fuel systems, DPFs, and catalytic converters are much more sensitive to fuel quality than some of the older trucks. And they can be extremely expensive to fix. Personally, I wouldn't use biodiesel unless it was the only choice.

As always, YMMV...

[just_me]

djgarcia wrote:
These question arise when the owner does not read his owners manual. Recommended in every case. Its recommended to get on the diesel forums and read the discussions on the various fuels and what works and what does not. Also other problems that might come up that your not aware of.
Right now on the TDR, a guy is working on his 2012 Ram 6.7 and installing a CNG system to use with diesel fuel. Interesting read.

Thanks for the reminder to read the owners manual. In this case i started with the owners manual and there was reference to anything to do with BIODIESEL.:(

I take it you meant to say "NO" reference to bio? I don't have your book so I cannot reference it. Just quoting what Cummins says. But thats for asking.

Anyway 5% is recommended maximum amount at this time.
Cummins also said it was OK to run a gallon of used Dino motor oil with a full tank of fuel diluted, in the older engines. But later they retracted that statement and recommended against it. Some had problems some did not. So they do change what they say periodically

[Blackcell]

Oregon/WA is mostly diesel #2 and a blend, often B5. I can burn up to B20 according to the manual but based on research primarily concerning HPFP I steer clear of biodiesel.

[MarkTwain]

These question arise when the owner does not read his owners manual. Recommended in every case. Its recommended to get on the diesel forums and read the discussions on the various fuels and what works and what does not. Also other problems that might come up that your not aware of.
Right now on the TDR, a guy is working on his 2012 Ram 6.7 and installing a CNG system to use with diesel fuel. Interesting read.

Thanks for the reminder to read the owners manual. In this case i started with the owners manual and there was reference to anything to do with BIODIESEL.:(

[RollandB]

Our good old lawmakers mandated a few years ago that we have to have a blend these days. More money at the pump for less mpg.....

[Cummins12V98]

Most say up to a certain percentage, does not mean there is any at all.

Same with Ethanol in Gasoline.

[Merlot]

I live in Washington and travel through Oregon quite often very rarely do I see bio diesel fuel.

[jnharley]

Dodge only warranties their 2012 and older trucks for 5% bio diesel. Since our truck is still under warranty, we will not be using bio diesel.

[just_me]

These question arise when the owner does not read his owners manual. Recommended in every case. Its recommended to get on the diesel forums and read the discussions on the various fuels and what works and what does not. Also other problems that might come up that your not aware of.
Right now on the TDR, a guy is working on his 2012 Ram 6.7 and installing a CNG system to use with diesel fuel. Interesting read.

[Robin1953]

My RAM owner's manual states no more than 5% biodiesel (B5).

[Me_Again]

Dave H M wrote:
I don't understand all the concern on the bio stuff. I grabbed a tank full quite often in my ole 7.3 power stroke.

It seemed to like it.

Yes but those with newer trucks should be concerned! Especilly the new Fords and Chevys with CP4.2 Bosch pumps. Read your owners manual!

Chris

[Dave_H_M]

I don't understand all the concern on the bio stuff. I grabbed a tank full quite often in my ole 7.3 power stroke.

It seemed to like it.

[Javi1]

Bio is pretty much all we get in Texas... some stations claim B5 others up to B20... it actually is better than the new ultra low sulfur #2 for your engine... the bio acts as a lubricant, it does need a cetane booster to get the same fuel mileage though... I run the Ford PM22 in my F250 and it seems to help.