Can't find what tv 5th wheel weight.

[Cdaddy]

Everything including manufacturer list bumper pool weight. And good apps or reference sites to find what something can pull in a 5er hitch

[JIMNLIN]

Cdaddy wrote:
Looking at a 2013 gas dwr with crew cab long bed 6.7

ford

Ram

These are the holy grail mfg website for actual tech specs for Ford and Ram.
I have no idea if GM has specs like this for their trucks

[kzspree320]

Cdaddy - What you posted doesn't add up. You say it is a GAS DRW with 6.7. The only 6.7 engines from the big 3 are diesel. Can you tell us if Ram, Ford (both have 6.7 diesels) or GM (no 6.7). I assume it's a 3500 since all DRW are 3500/350. Help us out a little. The gas engines are 5.7/6.4 Ram, 6.2 Ford or 6.0 (GM).

[Cdaddy]

Looking at a 2013 gas dwr with crew cab long bed 6.7

[jerem0621]

Some OEM's make a distinction between tag a long style trailers and fifth wheels. It really just depends on how the OEM was feeling that year.

How much fiver you can tow is directly impacted by how much pin weight you can carry.

If you have a F150 with 1,800 lbs of payload but want to pull a fifth wheel with 3,000 lbs of pin weight then you have a problem. The F150 may have a 12,000 lb tow rating but a 10,000 lb fiver will put you way over that 1,800 lb limit.

Some will say that you are only a few hundred lbs over so no big deal, while you may get away with that on a tag-a-long trailer a fiver may put significantly more weight on the truck than just a few hundred lbs over payload. Putting 3,000 lbs (easy on a fiver) of pin weight on a truck like the F150 will put you 1200 lbs over in my example and that's before you add the weight of the hitch, family, firewood, etc.

So, you can run the calculations using the above method on just about any truck. Look at the payload sticker on the drivers door jamb and then look st the pin weight of the trailer. Is there payload left over for everything else after you subtract the pin weight?

This is why you typically see HD trucks and dullies (not all use a dually) pulling fivers.

Thanks

Jeremiah

[JIMNLIN]

LDT or MDT or HDT or a car or a SUV or a Van what size and type or brand vehicle are you asking about.

[phillyg]

If it's a Ford go to the appropriate year Ford Towing Guide online.

[kerrlakeRoo]

Pin weight of the 5er is an actual weight, and dependent on the unit, tow weight is as well.
The trucks capabilities are straight from the door sticker. Payload capacity is total downward weight in your vehicle allowed as per the measuring system. So as an example
5er pin weight 1500 lbs
Hitch weight 200 lbs
Driver and 1 pass 350 lbs
5er battery (s) 150 lbs
Total 2200 lbs
Now add for junk in your truck bed, additional pin weight for water, clothes, propane, etc in 5er
and then you get to what you are asking the truck to handle for a payload weight.
This is all in separate from the towing capacity.
Yes I overly simplified this but as another means of imagining it.

Payload is all the downward weight of things pushing the trucks frame towards the gound, that your truck is designed to handle.

Towing capacity is all the weight that the trucks engine, transmission, drives shafts and frame are designed to pull forward and that the brakes are designed to be capable of stopping.

Payload is up / down
Tow is back and forth.

[Lwiddis]

Wouldn't it be just payload and rear axel capacities?