Crossroads Las Vegas/Sonoma

[mpoulsen]

Hello, my wife are looking at these two models sure like the bedroom and the fact that the tv's are all in front of you and not at a side, the other toy haulers on our list is Voltage 4018 and the Vengeance 39C14, we are planning to get one in about October or November. Any comments on any of them would be great, esp the Crossroads as the wife likes the bedroom layout alot!!!!! Tow rig is 2012 F-350 dually diesel Thanks

[walker111]

The two I viewed were north to south and still cramped by the wall/bed side. My last cougar was this way and I knew this was a no no for us.

[Steve76eb]

walker111 wrote:
When I looked at the fuzions they really appealed to me but.... The master bedroom had very little space between the bed and the wall. I am talking well under a foot. Can't recall the model but this was the case in the two I viewed. I have had spinal fusion ( note the irony) over a year ago and being able to get in and out of the bed with some ease was high on the list. My Voltage allows this.
Good luck! lots of decisions.

No doubt. If the bed is in the slide there is very little room to get around in the Fuzion, unless they have given the bedrooms a little more room since my 2013.

Seems the bedrooms that have the bed going North/South are getting a lot more popular and have much more room to move around them.

[walker111]

When I looked at the fuzions they really appealed to me but.... The master bedroom had very little space between the bed and the wall. I am talking well under a foot. Can't recall the model but this was the case in the two I viewed. I have had spinal fusion ( note the irony) over a year ago and being able to get in and out of the bed with some ease was high on the list. My Voltage allows this.
Good luck! lots of decisions.

[tinner12002]

One thing that turned us off with the cyclones and road warriors was the change they made in 2012 of going with hinged doors instead of sliding doors in the front bedroom closet, have to climb over bed to get into the left side of the closet with the hinged doors.

[Steve76eb]

It seems to be that the Cyclone and Road Warriors have had their growing pains over the past few years. Have not owned one, so cannot say for sure, but looked at many when I was in the market and came close to buying one. If you go back 5 years or so they were being touted as the next great thing with fantastic, responsive owners. Very much like how Grad Design is being talked about now days. Maybe once they were bought out by Thor profit took the place of quality.

I just sold off a Fuzion 342. Had a few issues along with the fading front cap problem and Keystone had no desire to to stand behind their product and the dealer(Best RV) was no existent, so it left me in a tough spot. Next trailer will definitely not be a Keystone and hopefully not a manufacturer owned by Thor.

[lakings10]

mpoulsen wrote:
Ok,so we went and looked at the trailers yesterday,and came away with a few surprises. The Sonoma was the first one,bedroom was everything we expected but the wow factor did not carry thru to the rest of the trailer, we still liked it. Second trailer was the Vengeance 38L13 definitely fit the bill for us and the Wow factor carried all their out,plus we also liked the 39C14. Then the surprises came into play. One of the salesman said I just got a new floor plan in that you might be interested in looking at so we said ok. As we got closer to the trailer it had a side patio which I told him I was not interested in, he assured me that I would not want to miss seeing this model(sounds like a typical salesman yes!) As soon as we walked in my lovely wife said "I love this trailer,l could buy this one!". Well there went my " I am not sure, what can do on the price to make me like it more" opportunity!! Lol. So your dying to know which brand and model right? It was Heartland Road Warrior RW427. I must admit it was gorgeous and the Wow factor carried all their the trailer.Large open floor space,gorgeous kitchen ,it too pretty much fit our needs. The problem is I have read so much about there quality. So please give us your good and bad on this one, another one that came up that we both like was the Fuzion 413 and 420. Both were nice the 420 had more open floor space as this would help with the dogs(one Great Dane and Boxer).So this is our top five now,Road Warrior, Vengeance,Fuzion,Voltage and Sonoma. Like I have said before we don't plan on buying till October or November and I sure we will go and look at them few more times,if we hadn't seen the Road Warrior the Vengeance would be our first pick.So please give us your opinion s especially on the Road Warrior and the Fuzion and we will keep you posted Thanks!!

Ive had 2 cyclones, 2 Road Warriors, current one is a 2016 310 and a fuzion. All will have little things that need tweeking. You cant go wrong with the 427, its a sweet floor plan. Make sure you dont pay more than 65k.

[mpoulsen]

Ok,so we went and looked at the trailers yesterday,and came away with a few surprises. The Sonoma was the first one,bedroom was everything we expected but the wow factor did not carry thru to the rest of the trailer, we still liked it. Second trailer was the Vengeance 38L13 definitely fit the bill for us and the Wow factor carried all their out,plus we also liked the 39C14. Then the surprises came into play. One of the salesman said I just got a new floor plan in that you might be interested in looking at so we said ok. As we got closer to the trailer it had a side patio which I told him I was not interested in, he assured me that I would not want to miss seeing this model(sounds like a typical salesman yes!) As soon as we walked in my lovely wife said "I love this trailer,l could buy this one!". Well there went my " I am not sure, what can do on the price to make me like it more" opportunity!! Lol. So your dying to know which brand and model right? It was Heartland Road Warrior RW427. I must admit it was gorgeous and the Wow factor carried all their the trailer.Large open floor space,gorgeous kitchen ,it too pretty much fit our needs. The problem is I have read so much about there quality. So please give us your good and bad on this one, another one that came up that we both like was the Fuzion 413 and 420. Both were nice the 420 had more open floor space as this would help with the dogs(one Great Dane and Boxer).So this is our top five now,Road Warrior, Vengeance,Fuzion,Voltage and Sonoma. Like I have said before we don't plan on buying till October or November and I sure we will go and look at them few more times,if we hadn't seen the Road Warrior the Vengeance would be our first pick.So please give us your opinion s especially on the Road Warrior and the Fuzion and we will keep you posted Thanks!!

[tinner12002]

DanB-ON wrote:
My wife and I looked at the Las Vegas and really loved the bedroom. The biggest issue we had is we Walmart a lot when going places and the front bedroom is complete blocked off with the slides in.
Our Vengeance 39R12 has been a great unit for us so far. Only issues in our first year was a badly leaking shower I fixed with some silicone, and the outside cable hook up doesn't work which I may never fix as I don't really use it.

I try and watch for things like that also, access to different areas of the hauler when slides are in and access to frig when slide is in or having frig slide on curb side so it can be run out without being in traffic.

[dedmiston]

mpoulsen wrote:
Thanks for all the input, we plan on Saturday looking at the Crossroads Sonoma in Manetca, the Vengeance 39L14 in Turlock at Best Rv. We like the bedroom of the Crossroads, but keep going back to the Vengeance, it should be really great to see them in person. We let you know what we thought of them

Look at a Homestead if you can. 🙂

[mpoulsen]

Thanks for all the input, we plan on Saturday looking at the Crossroads Sonoma in Manetca, the Vengeance 39L14 in Turlock at Best Rv. We like the bedroom of the Crossroads, but keep going back to the Vengeance, it should be really great to see them in person. We let you know what we thought of them

[DanB-ON]

My wife and I looked at the Las Vegas and really loved the bedroom. The biggest issue we had is we Walmart a lot when going places and the front bedroom is complete blocked off with the slides in.
Our Vengeance 39R12 has been a great unit for us so far. Only issues in our first year was a badly leaking shower I fixed with some silicone, and the outside cable hook up doesn't work which I may never fix as I don't really use it.

[tinner12002]

Winnebago Scorpion looks pretty interesting. Of the ones you mentioned the Voltage would be my last choice due to the slide system they use, personally don't like it, Vengeance would be 1st choice though I would go with the 38L13 for bigger garage and more CCC and GVWR, queen bed works best for me so I have room around the bed, putting the Elevation 2nd because of the lesser GVWR. Just my opinion.

[loboclone]

mpoulsen wrote:
Hello, my wife are looking at these two models sure like the bedroom and the fact that the tv's are all in front of you and not at a side, the other toy haulers on our list is Voltage 4018 and the Vengeance 39C14, we are planning to get one in about October or November. Any comments on any of them would be great, esp the Crossroads as the wife likes the bedroom layout alot!!!!! Tow rig is 2012 F-350 dually diesel Thanks

Take alook at Jayco, many models and 2 year warranty

[dedmiston]

mpoulsen wrote:
I forgot to ask how long is the garage,what is the ramp rated at for weight and what is the garage max weight. In the pictures of your model at the end of the island there's a shiny glass, the wife and I thought it was a small refrigerator or dish washer? Fit and finish? We haven't seen one yet in person, thanks

I can't say what the ramp load limits are. We ride bikes so the weights are never very heavy.

The garage is 12 feet.

And yes, that glass thing you saw is a wine fridge. Silly. I'm still trying to find the power cord so I can unplug it. I haven't installed an inverter yet, but I don't need the draw from a mini fridge.